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Old 07-23-2009, 11:11 AM   #1
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I don't understand is why changing factors or indexes will help? Cars will still be the same amount apart.
As i see it ...no one really knows how far apart different combos in the same class are these days..this system make everyone adapt to the triggers that currently are being used.. "the evolution" has nowhere to go..other than adding weight...and very few like to do that so they manipulate the system..Ofcourse "the evolution" could make slower cars dissapear if the index would be lowered...if you wanna keep all current cars and add even more you could just raise the index and trigger....but the spread between fast and slow cars would be even bigger because most are just happy to be in the race at the cheapest way possible..maybe thats how most like to have it!...but as i see it the trigger and index need more room between them than whats the case now. lower the index and keeping the trigger is one way..keeping the index and raising the trigger is another..but only 20 years ago only a veryfew went more than -.500..a real "exclusive club" at Nationals....just thinking it should be something really special to go -1.00 wich it could be if they lowered the indexes a couple of tenths..

p.s. at Boise where the only trigger is -1.40 under sealevel index one car was heads and shoulders above the rest in the class when probably all was trying for records..

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Old 07-23-2009, 12:27 PM   #2
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Chevy rods in a Ford? Where do you come up with this stuff? How about Chevy "sized" rod bearings not a Chevy rod. WTH SB Chrs. have been using the Chevy "sized" rod bearings for years also. No one says anything about them.....Learn to read a set of mic's then you too may pick up some et.
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:41 PM   #3
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There will always be a difference of opinions on Indexes, triggers, AHFS, etc. One fact is the current Indexes are soft. Not opinion, fact. I looked up the Indexes from 1990, and compared to todays, some Indexes were as much as two tenths quicker in 1990. Since then a multitude of rule changes have come about, allowing parts and stuff that were not legal in 1990, cars have picked up several tenths since then, and the Indexes have become slower? Doesn't make much sense. All the Indexes of today could stand to lose some (although I would leave SS/AM as is, and maybe SS/AH). Two tenths or so would be a good start. Although, there starts the argument. If you lower the Indexes, say, two tenths across the board (five tenths is to much, IMO) and leave the triggers (-1.15 twice for a look and -1.40 for automatic), then that plays into the fast guys/girls hands...allowing them to run flat out with no, or reduced, penalties. If you lower the Indexes two tenths, and reduce the triggers to -.95 and -1.20, then you still have the same problem that some currently do not like, which is being unable to run flat out in Class Eliminations, or heads-up runs or setting records, without a potential penalty of HP adjustments. It would be hard to make an ideal scenario for the majority.

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SS/A 9.80
SS/B 10.00
SS/C 10.25
SS/D 10.35
SS/E 10.45
SS/F 10.55
SS/G 10.65
SS/H 10.70
SS/I 10.75
SS/J 11.00
SS/K 11.20
SS/L 11.40
SS/M 11.70
SS/N 12.05
SS/O 12.30
SS/P 12.60

SS/AA 9.85
SS/BA 9.95
SS/CA 10.15
SS/DA 10.30
SS/EA 10.45
SS/FA 10.55
SS/GA 10.65
SS/HA 10.75
SS/IA 10.85
SS/JA 11.10
SS/KA 11.35
SS/LA 11.65
SS/MA 11.95
SS/NA 12.25
SS/OA 12.50
SS/PA 12.75

GT/A 10.10
GT/B 10.20
GT/C 10.30
GT/D 10.45
GT/E 10.60
GT/F 10.70
GT/G 10.85
GT/H 10.95
GT/I 11.05
GT/J 11.15
GT/K 11.25
GT/L 11.40
GT/M 11.50

GT/AA 10.25
GT/BA 10.35
GT/CA 10.50
GT/DA 10.60
GT/EA 10.75
GT/FA 10.90
GT/GA 11.10
GT/HA 11.15
GT/IA 11.30
GT/JA 11.45
GT/KA 11.55
GT/LA 11.65
GT/MA 11.75

SS/AS 9.75
SS/BS 9.85
SS/CS 10.30

SS/AM 9.40
SS/BM 9.60
SS/CM 9.80
SS/DM 10.00
SS/EM 10.20
SS/FM 10.60
SS/GM 10.60

A/S 11.09
B/S 11.29
C/S 11.47
D/S 11.62
E/S 11.76
F/S 11.90
G/S 12.00
H/S 12.09
I/S 12.28
J/S 12.43
K/S 12.67
L/S 12.81
M/S 12.95
N/S 13.05
O/S 13.19
P/S 13.47
Q/S 13.76
R/S 14.05
T/S 14.48
U/S 14.77
V/S 15.39
W/S 15.96

A/SA 11.17
B/SA 11.37
C/SA 11.51
D/SA 11.66
E/SA 11.80
F/SA 11.95
G/SA 12.10
H/SA 12.24
I/SA 12.38
J/SA 12.53
K/SA 12.73
L/SA 12.82
M/SA 12.96
N/SA 13.11
O/SA 13.26
P/SA 13.54
Q/SA 13.89
R/SA 14.13
T/SA 14.67
U/SA 14.96
V/SA 15.71
W/SA 16.80
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:27 PM   #4
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Question of the year? Why are people worried about indexes. If there are any answers, I wlll take it from there. I will say the horse is dead and I think NHRA feels the same way.
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Chevy rods in a Ford? Where do you come up with this stuff? How about Chevy "sized" rod bearings not a Chevy rod. WTH SB Chrs. have been using the Chevy "sized" rod bearings for years also. No one says anything about them.....Learn to read a set of mic's then you too may pick up some et.
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