Lack of contingency decals on cars????

[THE LEGEND]

RJ,
I don't know about NHRA but IHRA has it on the web site.
I'm sure NHRA does too.
Chip

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by RJ

Before I clutter up my car with decals, who isn't paying?

Rj,

Unfortunately my car is starting to show more paint and less decals because companies like; Clevite 77, Speedpro, Felpro, M/T, Moroso (wires), and Autometer (tachometers), don't pay anymore. My car had a bunch more decals on it back in the early 2000's than it does now, and if you want to see the difference, visit "Auto Imagery", and pull up my name and you'll see real quickly the difference. Heck, I can remember back in 1999 when class paid me $550 at the Chandler, Az. national event. However, last year a class win was only worth $150 to me, and this year (with the loss of Team M/T), it's just $100!!!

Wow, what a bummer this is....

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Race cars have STICKERS. Show cars look pretty. Make your choice. I personally think that people without stickers probably have never one a race. If they ever do then they will realize how stupid they were for not getting sticker money.
I had my 10.90 car painted last year buy Kenny Koonce. He did a great job as usual. I had around 5 grand in the paint job and other work he did. Since I got over 15 grand in "STICKER MONEY"
I will sticker one up in a heartbeat.
Chip

Chip,

With all due respect to your thoughts on sticker less race cars, your opinion may have merit. However, as for my bud Steve's Savoy, he's not wearing the number 54 on his car because he's a fly by night racer, and if you think so then tell him how you feel about his car not having decals on it prior to an elimination round against him (I'd pay an entry fee just to watch that race)! The last time some people belittled me with my dented/paint chipped '73 Pontiac Ventura, and my race team "Bandimere Speedway" tipped me off to that it did nothing but give me the extra mojo to win the 1981 Division V Street Eliminator Championship!!! Furthermore, I won't forget the racer who back at the '98 Mile High Nationals felt that he could so easily beat my Cavalier (because it was a bit off of the index), that he clicked his motor while still on the race course, and felt that he could coast to the win against me??? What he wasn't counting on was by doing that I was able to real him in, and I nipped him at the stripe by .003!!! Furthermore, what made it more embarrasing to him was that "Winston Vision" showed the whole thing for all of the fans and the announcers to see...I hope that CROW he ate tasted good...my other pal Jody Lang in round three eased up against me but he was smart enough to hit the throttle enough to assure that he stayed ahead of me, cause I was about to do the same thing to him, but he respected my abilities and remained the class act that he is!!! That will go down as one of my finest hours in this category!!!

My point to you Chip is be careful what you say and to whom, cause it could cause you to be like him, and/or bitten in the *****!!!

Besides, his car (if you watched the Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction and saw Bill Goldbergs Dodge Coronet) is worth enough money that it would take 5-8 national events (maybe more) winning $15K a pop to equal what his car would be worth on the auction floor....

[Stocker 449]

I'm guessing there used to be good money in class for all brands. We made a good deal winning class with our Dodge Aspen Wagon the past couple of years, but havent had a chance to see what we can get this year.

The day that we feel we can start winning class in our Max Wedge is the day we might considering placing stickers on the car. I guess people wont consider it a true race car until then...

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Stocker 449

I'm guessing there used to be good money in class for all brands. We made a good deal winning class with our Dodge Aspen Wagon the past couple of years, but havent had a chance to see what we can get this year.

The day that we feel we can start winning class in our Max Wedge is the day we might considering placing stickers on the car. I guess people wont consider it a true race car until then...

There was good money in class for all brands bud, and if my car was rwd, I could've earned more for a class win than I did/do with my fwd'er. Per your last sentence, as long as you leave me (and Steve) out of that thought from your last statement, you might be right. I however hope someday I'll be back on the circuit in such a way that I can see your Max Wedge "RACE CAR" in action...being that it's a Mopar product I'm sure that Steve would like to see it too!

[THE LEGEND]

Gary,
What does you getting beat 3rd rd and your buddy having #54 got to do with Contingency money? There are some people that would rather have a show car than a race car. Like I said in an erlier post it's up to you to decide. One thing I would like you to know. I've been bitten in the ***** before but I can bite back.
Have a good day.
Chip Johnson

[Dinsdale]

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Gary,
What does you getting beat 3rd rd and your buddy having #54 got to do with Contingency money? There are some people that would rather have a show car than a race car. Like I said in an erlier post it's up to you to decide. One thing I would like you to know. I've been bitten in the ***** before but I can bite back.
Have a good day.
Chip Johnson

So, are you suggesting that a nice car can't be a race car. I've seen plenty of beautiful cars that had their looks ruined by TOO many decals. Run them if you want (or must) but just because someone doesn't you seem to be implying that they don't have a "race car". Never seen a decal that would make a car go faster.

I may not be a racer, but my car won 2nd place in the "Drag Car" catagory in the one and only show I will ever put it in. It was part of our club display at a fairly large show. The fact it's run 9.83 @ 136.78 (without decals) means it's a race car to me. No decals now, or ever on my car.

[THE LEGEND]

Disdale,
You have a very nice looking and undoubtedly fast car. MY OPINION though you can see it every saturday night down at the Sonic. I really enjoy looking at show cars. I really enjoy watching all cars go down the track. My point being IF YOU EVER WIN A RACE that pays contingency you will regret not having the decals on it when you realize how much money you left on the table.
Chip Johnson

[Terry Knott]

Chip asked me at Budds Creek did I want a show car or a race car.I told him I wanted BOTH!!
I never understood the concept of having contingency stickers on a car for a company that doesn't pay,or even LIST for a national/divisional. Why give them the exposure?? Of course I'm pickier than most and my sticker layout was changed EVERY year. I have 8 stickers on my car now...sad...but that's all that's available to me.

[Steve Williams]

Chip,

You look at the winners purse and then add about $12,000.00 dollars on top and you have a nice payday. Nice car or not I am putting them on. My friend has won several national events in NHRA and they look at your car for contingency decals late in the day. I remember putting them on the car as late as 10 minutes before the final. If you race alot like you do, you are foolish not to put them on or you can afford to run alot out of your own pocket. I was at Rockingham when you won a div championship and wondered what that day would have paid if it was me, and it was by no means big dollars, but my calculations told me that would have paid for alot the next season. Best part is that the stickers come off if you don't like them. To each persons liking I suppose. But I say Show Me the Money!

Steve

I know that was getting off the thread, but todays contingency deals are lacking. Slow pay or no pay by some ruin it for the other manufacturers that do pay and pay quick (30 days). Ask anyone that races alot and wins occasionally, they can tell you who the deadbeats are. I agree with Terry on non posting manufacturers-no pay no sticker.