S/g 1983

[Paul Merolla]

Competition Plus....not DRC. If a S/G race looked like that today, it might be worth watching. One of the launches even sounded like a MP zinger.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Paul Merolla

Competition Plus....not DRC. If a S/G race looked like that today, it might be worth watching. One of the launches even sounded like a MP zinger.

Sorry,CRS attack.It was very entertaining though.

[X-TECH MAN]

Yepper....its to bad the associations let it get out of hand like all of the other classes. Probably cant go back because of the $$$$ and politics involved. Maybe if someone starts another sportsman association and has something like the .90 classes whatever the index might be they will have the forsight to NOT allow any electronics at all. No deep staging, .5 tenths trees in all 3 classes to equal different weight and styles of cars, build the engine and car to run the number to see how many "Jump Ship" and try racing the way it used to be with just a "bolt stop" for the throttle.. Its called DRIVER SKILL not robotics.

[billy leber]

I would love to go back. Makes no sense to me that we have 25000 dollar engines so we can all go 160+, if we all went 135 ,like a 9.90 et should be at, im thinking you could get away with a engine that costs well under 10 grand.

[Rich Biebel]

I won S/G at the SummerNationals in 1988 with a car that I probably had less than $10Grand in and won over $10 grand.....It went 9.90 at maybe 136. It was an LS-7 engine with a stock bore and stroke...aluminum heads and a roller cam and an 850 carb. The car weighed 2420lbs.....

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I won S/G at the SummerNationals in 1988 with a car that I probably had less than $10Grand in and won over $10 grand.....It went 9.90 at maybe 136. It was an LS-7 engine with a stock bore and stroke...aluminum heads and a roller cam and an 850 carb. The car weighed 2420lbs.....

Wasnt it great to win more money than what you spent at just one race? Those days are gone.

[Rich Biebel]

Yes it was awesome........I have more than 3 times as much money in the dragster I race today, and I bought the car as a used roller! I won a Lucas Oil Series race in S/C in 2005 in my old "budget" dragster and received less than $2 grand in winnings......Just a little perspective there......


I loved that video of S/G at Gainesville and also the one from the Sportsnationals in '78 in Modified Eliminator. I was with my buddy helping him run a C/SM car back in 1978 a lot.......I was at Gainesville in '84 with Dave Schapiro and we went to rd 5 I really thought we were gonna win that one......Lost to a little Ford Mustang II....a racer from Ohio......Man did we have fun back then !!!!!

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by billy leber

I would love to go back. Makes no sense to me that we have 25000 dollar engines so we can all go 160+, if we all went 135 ,like a 9.90 et should be at, im thinking you could get away with a engine that costs well under 10 grand.

Billy, 21st century mentality will prevent that.Can't hurt sponsors,have too much invested now,whatever.
I wonder how many current super racers could adapt mentally and mechanically to do what Labbous,
Cohen and the rest did in those ancient prehistoric times.

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Billy, 21st century mentality will prevent that.Can't hurt sponsors,have too much invested now,whatever.
I wonder how many current super racers could adapt mentally and mechanically to do what Labbous,
Cohen and the rest did in those ancient prehistoric times.

Labbous used to bring 3 cars to a little drag strip in Ala. called Green Valley to bracket race, each family member would move the cars in the staging lanes and he would run from one car to another. One night he had to run himself in the semi's. He won...lol!

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

. Maybe if someone starts another sportsman association and has something like the .90 classes whatever the index might be they will have the forsight to NOT allow any electronics at all. No deep staging, .5 tenths trees in all 3 classes to equal different weight and styles of cars, build the engine and car to run the number to see how many "Jump Ship" and try racing the way it used to be with just a "bolt stop" for the throttle.. Its called DRIVER SKILL not robotics.

Terry,

I understand the reasons for all your suggestions and agree with them, except for your objection to deep staging. All the other suggestions you made make a lot of sense, but can you tell me exactly what it is about deep staging that is objectionable in your viewpoint?

I've heard people complain that they think deep staging takes an inordinate amout of time, and should be disallowed for that reason, but won't the Autostart program eliminate drivers who take too long to stage?

Please explain to me if you think there is something inherently unfair about the process of deep staging, and/or just what there is about that process that you find objectionable in a program like you were describing.

I can't see why it's objectionable. It seems to me that it might give a slower, heavier car a fighting chance against lighter, quicker-moving cars. Is that a bad thing?

Thanks for any information; I am curious....