AHFS details

[Jeff Teuton]

Well, I have sent in all the info and numerous emails about the issues. And so have most of the other members of the committee. At this point, I am discouraged. I guess I just don't understand the program or the administration of it. Maybe I'm just too old, or I am convoluted from the Cash for Clunkers federal program which is also a mess.

[442OLDS]

After reading all of the confusion regarding the AHFS,it almost makes me feel fortunate that I have a slow car and combo.

[Robert Simpson]

Along the lines of NHRA not telling about the rule change. Did anyone notice the super stock rod rule change? Maybe I missed the notice but I just got it. ANY journal size? On a sbc small journal you can now use a even smaller rod/bearing. Is this a old rule? Something I missed? Sorry to hijack the thread it just goes along with NHRA seamingly lack, or any reasoning on what they decide to do. I have never understood how NHRA is using/implementing the AHFS rule?

[Randall Klein]

Wastin' time

This "simple" AHFS system (Len Imbrogno) has been a tangled mess from the beginning; NHRA explanations, Dragster articles, web site clarifications repeated tech inquiries, calls, SRA, SRAC....whatever...it is poorly written policy open to interpretation, which is just what bureaucratic organizations want. We got bit a few years ago when our 1.15 hits (two) were done in different segments....we thought we were safe according to the printed rules at the time, and our opinion was confirmed by: Jeff Tueton, Nitro Joe, Div 5 tech officials, but subsequently overruled by Bob Lang with the following statement: "you just get it....if you don't like it, race someplace else"

It has been interesting to me to watch other racers impacted unfairly to finally "get it" and complain. I and a few others were banging this drum many years ago....only to fall of deaf ears. Years ago some thought NHRA just wanted to get rid of us (S & SS)....oh no, NHRA protested, S & SS are the "backbone" of our sport, but you couldn't dream up a better scheme if you tried than to enhance us out of the picture one dumb move after another.

It seems as if NHRA is drugged up on TV money, but as the Pros slowly implode with this economic tsunami, the Sportsman continue to build $75,000+ cars to race for chump change, because we are hooked on our hobby

Too bad NHRA knows this

[RON TAYLOR]

I agree with JACK !

[RHINO]

I agree with Ron who agrees with Jack

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by Robert Simpson

Along the lines of NHRA not telling about the rule change. Did anyone notice the super stock rod rule change? Maybe I missed the notice but I just got it. ANY journal size? On a sbc small journal you can now use a even smaller rod/bearing. Is this a old rule? Something I missed? Sorry to hijack the thread it just goes along with NHRA seamingly lack, or any reasoning on what they decide to do. I have never understood how NHRA is using/implementing the AHFS rule?

Yep, robert the any rod journal size rule is an effect. I belive its been like that for 2yrs.



Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

[Byron Worner]

Any news on the AHFS???

[Mike Crutchfield]

Byron and ALL
I am sorry guys. I know I owe a lot of you a call or email reguarding this issue but it has been a on-going conversation with NHRA about the issue.
Yes there has been very much email conversation with Pat Cvengros the technical service representive for NHRA with copies going to all of our council members and Glen Gray and Graham Light and Danny Gracia. The conversation focuses on the wording of the new AHFS rule this year compared to the previous years. The basic rule is the same but it has been re-arranged and the omission of a key paragraph is the root of all of the problems with the system today. That sentence reads ( Only the quickest run of each event is recorded for each competitor)
Without that sentence the collection of all 1.15 under runs at a single event will be counted and only one run per other competitor with the same combination is counted if it is over 1.15 under.
It is not clear how or why that sentence was omitted or if it was intentional or a error. But that is how the rule was applied.
I and several of the SARA members position on this is there cannot be a fair sampling of the classes unless the key sentence is re-placed in the wording of the rule.
Please feel free to express your concerns to NHRA if you feel the need. They are very busy people but I know they want to be consistent with the way they apply rules and a expression of concern from each racer would go a long way in getting the system back to a more fair way of sampling.

Thanks
Mike Crutchfield
S/SS Council Member

[Schenck]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Well, I am convoluted from the Cash for Clunkers federal program which is also a mess.

Jeff, your car is too old for the program, but I bet it meets the EPA mileage of 18 or less. LOL Hell , I give you the $4500.00 for it.

Greg Schenck