Bogacki DQ

Adger Smith · 08-16-2009, 05:20 PM

Sorry to tell you Chip & Mike, not everyone is complaining about it. Read my posts... I'm not judgemental. Unless you read that into where I say it was a bad deal for Luke. I'm just into the facts about how the two engines don't share the same parts. You see I call myself a Class racer and though these two engine combos would cross over or were closer to it. (like quiet a few small blocks) I would say I'm like quite a few people, surprised. That is why I took the time to search out the specs for the two engines. I didn't bother posting it, but I even looked up to see if some MFG had part numbers that crossed over on the pistons.
So, with that said I DON'T APPRECIATE BEING LUMPED INTO YOUR STATEMENTS ABOUT A SERIES OF POSTS THAT YOU PRECEIVE AS KNOCKING Luke.
You see I have some past history with Luke. I helped his Dad work out some problems with an engine combo they were having problems with. (way back in the early part of this decade) I know what kind of person Luke is and where he came from. What I take offense to is you guys with your Chips on your shoulder (pun intended) thinking everyone knocks someone when they make a post. Grow up children!

Mike McCandless · 08-16-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Sorry to tell you Chip & Mike, not everyone is complaining about it. Read my posts... I'm not judgemental. Unless you read that into where I say it was a bad deal for Luke. I'm just into the facts about how the two engines don't share the same parts. You see I call myself a Class racer and though these two engine combos would cross over or were closer to it. (like quiet a few small blocks) I would say I'm like quite a few people, surprised. That is why I took the time to search out the specs for the two engines. I didn't bother posting it, but I even looked up to see if some MFG had part numbers that crossed over on the pistons.
So, with that said I DON'T APPRECIATE BEING LUMPED INTO YOUR STATEMENTS ABOUT A SERIES OF POSTS THAT YOU PRECEIVE AS KNOCKING Luke.
You see I have some past history with Luke. I helped his Dad work out some problems with an engine combo they were having problems with. (way back in the early part of this decade) I know what kind of person Luke is and where he came from. What I take offense to is you guys with your Chips on your shoulder (pun intended) thinking everyone knocks someone when they make a post. Grow up children!

My post wasn't direct at any one person. Nor was I trying to lump everyone into a big group. I was just pointing out that I haven't seen Luke complaining about the DQ, so why should anyone else? That's all. TYPING IN CAPITAL LETTERS DOESN'T MAKE A POINT ANYMORE VALID BY THE WAY.

NHRA 5037 · 08-16-2009, 08:57 PM

I was at the race and spoke with him Thursday night. He was parked in the sandbox next to a buddy and he didn't look like the million dollar man by looks of his equipment (other than the fine Super Comp dragster). He couldn't have been a nicer guy and I really enjoyed the conversation. He seemed more concerned with avoiding a heads up race with a faster class car than the legality of his ride.

Super Sport · 08-17-2009, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NHRA 5037

He seemed more concerned with avoiding a heads up race with a faster class car than the legality of his ride.

BINGO!!! Give the man a prize. He has pegged the reason "legends" in bracket racing think they can jump over into class racing without regards to the rules. Since the bodies looked the same, he probably thought no one would ever send a car in the lower half of the field to teardown. He could just waltz in and use his driving skills to win a national event. WRONG. Kudos to the tech dept for a great catch.

Tony Janes · 08-17-2009, 08:08 AM

Mr Super Sport, Stock and Super Stock is a money bracket, do you not understand that.

Super Sport · 08-17-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes

Mr Super Sport, Stock and Super Stock is a money bracket, do you not understand that.

You are correct. It is a money bracket.....with silly rules like correct carb, correct heads, correct pistons, and correct lots of other things that are not required on a bracket car. That gentlemen is the difference in racing S/SS and racing in the ET brackets.

Once again my hats off to the tech dept for nailing this one! Some racers know exactly what they are doing but do not think they will get caught.

mannymen · 08-17-2009, 10:27 AM

In 5 years I'm sure it won't matter as the bracket Super Stock. Stock and .90 cars will be gone from the NHRA National Event circuit. All you have to do is pay attention to IHRA's (Top Dragster & Top Sportsman) newer classes and what the ADRL is doing and that is where we will be.

The ADRL in St Louis had over 110,000 fans for their weekend race and had 65K on Saturday in which fans had to be turned away due to fire codes. Now we all know why NHRA is PO'd and why they are not making the money they want

Super Sport just drop in the 582 and hook up the nitrous

NHRA 5037 · 08-17-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Sport

BINGO!!! Give the man a prize. He has pegged the reason "legends" in bracket racing think they can jump over into class racing without regards to the rules. Since the bodies looked the same, he probably thought no one would ever send a car in the lower half of the field to teardown. He could just waltz in and use his driving skills to win a national event. WRONG. Kudos to the tech dept for a great catch.

I think you misinterpreted my words...he didn't appear to be concerned with the legality of his ride because he didn't think there was an issue. In fact, he indicated that his car was slower than someone in his class and wanted to avoid him if possible. I can't read his mind and determine if he knew the car was in the wrong class but I will say he was on a three week trip and I doubt he would drag a car across the country if he knew it was in the wrong class. Or maybe he would, heck if I know. I do know that he lost to a doorcar in Super Comp on Friday so I am sure he didn't have a fun time at Brainerd.

FLEMING · 08-17-2009, 01:05 PM

I hope no one shows up with the wrong year radiator cap and valve stems on there cars.. Hate to see someone get dq'd.. LOL

You guys crack me up.. If you guys worried half as much about actually racing, and not trying to catch someone else doing something class racing might actually be something new people would want to do..

Kinda makes me glad I dont have a stocker now..

buzzinhalfdozen · 08-17-2009, 01:25 PM

I don't think it's something to laugh about, for the most part the S/SS racers spend a lot of time money and effort to make Class legal cars. It's not for everyone however everyone seems to want to play. Being expected to know the rules of your class is not too much to expect. This doesn't even affect me since I don't have a Stocker however it seems to be a growing trend for the Touring (for lack of a better word)racers to want to come in and see if they can beatup on the Class racers. But hey that's OK we're all just out racing and if you don't like competion then you're in the wrong place.I don't know Luke never met him but I'm sure he's not out trying to cheat anyone.I was told a long time ago when starting out in Modified that you must pay your dues, maybe he just paid some. Joe

08-16-2009, 05:20 PM	#1
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ Sorry to tell you Chip & Mike, not everyone is complaining about it. Read my posts... I'm not judgemental. Unless you read that into where I say it was a bad deal for Luke. I'm just into the facts about how the two engines don't share the same parts. You see I call myself a Class racer and though these two engine combos would cross over or were closer to it. (like quiet a few small blocks) I would say I'm like quite a few people, surprised. That is why I took the time to search out the specs for the two engines. I didn't bother posting it, but I even looked up to see if some MFG had part numbers that crossed over on the pistons. So, with that said I DON'T APPRECIATE BEING LUMPED INTO YOUR STATEMENTS ABOUT A SERIES OF POSTS THAT YOU PRECEIVE AS KNOCKING Luke. You see I have some past history with Luke. I helped his Dad work out some problems with an engine combo they were having problems with. (way back in the early part of this decade) I know what kind of person Luke is and where he came from. What I take offense to is you guys with your Chips on your shoulder (pun intended) thinking everyone knocks someone when they make a post. Grow up children! __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

08-16-2009, 08:57 PM	#3
NHRA 5037 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ I was at the race and spoke with him Thursday night. He was parked in the sandbox next to a buddy and he didn't look like the million dollar man by looks of his equipment (other than the fine Super Comp dragster). He couldn't have been a nicer guy and I really enjoyed the conversation. He seemed more concerned with avoiding a heads up race with a faster class car than the legality of his ride.

08-17-2009, 08:08 AM	#5
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 102 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ Mr Super Sport, Stock and Super Stock is a money bracket, do you not understand that. __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

08-17-2009, 10:27 AM	#7
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 729 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ In 5 years I'm sure it won't matter as the bracket Super Stock. Stock and .90 cars will be gone from the NHRA National Event circuit. All you have to do is pay attention to IHRA's (Top Dragster & Top Sportsman) newer classes and what the ADRL is doing and that is where we will be. The ADRL in St Louis had over 110,000 fans for their weekend race and had 65K on Saturday in which fans had to be turned away due to fire codes. Now we all know why NHRA is PO'd and why they are not making the money they want Super Sport just drop in the 582 and hook up the nitrous __________________ N/A

08-17-2009, 01:05 PM	#9
FLEMING Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 264 Likes: 51 Liked 55 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ I hope no one shows up with the wrong year radiator cap and valve stems on there cars.. Hate to see someone get dq'd.. LOL You guys crack me up.. If you guys worried half as much about actually racing, and not trying to catch someone else doing something class racing might actually be something new people would want to do.. Kinda makes me glad I dont have a stocker now..

08-17-2009, 01:25 PM	#10
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ I don't think it's something to laugh about, for the most part the S/SS racers spend a lot of time money and effort to make Class legal cars. It's not for everyone however everyone seems to want to play. Being expected to know the rules of your class is not too much to expect. This doesn't even affect me since I don't have a Stocker however it seems to be a growing trend for the Touring (for lack of a better word)racers to want to come in and see if they can beatup on the Class racers. But hey that's OK we're all just out racing and if you don't like competion then you're in the wrong place.I don't know Luke never met him but I'm sure he's not out trying to cheat anyone.I was told a long time ago when starting out in Modified that you must pay your dues, maybe he just paid some. Joe __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117