1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower?

Paul Wong · 09-02-2009, 04:23 PM

There have always been soft combinations. New cars that were soft initially ( this list could go on for pages) There are always people with more money than others that are ready to spend it, Thats life. It still class racing. Thats why i'm bummed I sitting behind a desk and not at indy right now. I hope there are more of us left that live for class and heads up racing. We will be on borrowed time when thay kill heads up racing. Its pretty much all we have left to separate us from $3000 bracket cars.

Joe DeMarzo · 09-02-2009, 06:16 PM

AMEN Paul and James.

Bob Bender · 09-02-2009, 06:53 PM

Thanks ..............ED..............

bill dedman · 09-02-2009, 11:04 PM

The essence of drag racing...

The fact is, Class racing and the same-class matchups that occur (infrequently) in Stock and Super Stock Eliminator(s) is the only PURE drag racing left unless you want to include CIC racing in Comp, which admittedly, has no breakouts, but does have moveable handicaps (CIC induced.)

The heads up DRAG RACING that goes on under the two aforementioned situations is all that's left of
"drag racing" for the Sportsman racer.

ALL the rest is just Bracket racing.

Nothing wrong with Bracket racing (I have a Bracket car, myself), but don't confuse it with DRAG RACING.
It may LOOK like drag racing, and it may even sound like drag racing (minus an active throttle stop) but it's not....

Drag Racing got its start with 4 Stock classes, NO handicaps and no breakouts.... It was ALL heads-up racing.... no Christmas tree, just a flagman.

Would it have grown and prospered, and become the nationwide phenomenon that it became if it had had all the handicaps, breakouts and dial-ins that we have today, at the outset?

I doubt it; it was pure and simple and people could understand it. First car (of two that left together) to the finish line wins!!!

That was drag racing...

If you kill heads up runs, you have killed the essence of what made this sport great.

You can rationalize all you want about the perceived "damage" done by a system that includes heads-up/no breakout runs, but do away with that and you've gutted the soul of this sport.

My 2-cents...

09-02-2009, 04:23 PM	#1
Paul Wong Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 384 Likes: 101 Liked 419 Times in 85 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? There have always been soft combinations. New cars that were soft initially ( this list could go on for pages) There are always people with more money than others that are ready to spend it, Thats life. It still class racing. Thats why i'm bummed I sitting behind a desk and not at indy right now. I hope there are more of us left that live for class and heads up racing. We will be on borrowed time when thay kill heads up racing. Its pretty much all we have left to separate us from $3000 bracket cars.

09-02-2009, 06:16 PM	#2
Joe DeMarzo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mahopac, NY Posts: 668 Likes: 49 Liked 120 Times in 11 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? AMEN Paul and James. __________________ Joe DeMarzo 1317 STK

09-02-2009, 06:53 PM	#3
Bob Bender VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,735 Likes: 1,601 Liked 460 Times in 91 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? Thanks ..............ED.............. __________________ Bob Bender 144 O/SA 2010-2012 National Record Holder

09-02-2009, 11:04 PM	#4
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? The essence of drag racing... The fact is, Class racing and the same-class matchups that occur (infrequently) in Stock and Super Stock Eliminator(s) is the only PURE drag racing left unless you want to include CIC racing in Comp, which admittedly, has no breakouts, but does have moveable handicaps (CIC induced.) The heads up DRAG RACING that goes on under the two aforementioned situations is all that's left of "drag racing" for the Sportsman racer. ALL the rest is just Bracket racing. Nothing wrong with Bracket racing (I have a Bracket car, myself), but don't confuse it with DRAG RACING. It may LOOK like drag racing, and it may even sound like drag racing (minus an active throttle stop) but it's not.... Drag Racing got its start with 4 Stock classes, NO handicaps and no breakouts.... It was ALL heads-up racing.... no Christmas tree, just a flagman. Would it have grown and prospered, and become the nationwide phenomenon that it became if it had had all the handicaps, breakouts and dial-ins that we have today, at the outset? I doubt it; it was pure and simple and people could understand it. First car (of two that left together) to the finish line wins!!! That was drag racing... If you kill heads up runs, you have killed the essence of what made this sport great. You can rationalize all you want about the perceived "damage" done by a system that includes heads-up/no breakout runs, but do away with that and you've gutted the soul of this sport. My 2-cents... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 09-03-2009 at 12:25 PM.