1962 Catalina

Ed Fernandez · 09-09-2009, 04:28 PM

How rare is a 1962 Pontiac Catalina Canadian market car with a 4 bbl 409?Saw one this weekend at Lead East.Looked like a nice car.Guy was from Long Island and wanted $30K.
Also a 1962 Cat.with a 421 Pontiac.NJ car,not for sale,nicer than the Canadian car.

Joe Abbazia · 09-09-2009, 05:12 PM

Ed if I had your money I would have bought them both.I could see you know pulling into atco towing with a 62 cat.Stay well buddy.Joe.

Dick Butler · 09-09-2009, 05:43 PM

Not many of those around. Maybe a Pontiac nut will respond.(Friendly label). I saw a 65 Chevy with a 409 on E-bay for sale and hadnt remembered them available. It was a nice Red Big car....Real G-Whiz if you had the money.

Greg Reimer 7376 · 09-09-2009, 05:59 PM

Canadian Pontiacs used Chevy drive trains. If the car is a 62 with a 4 barrel 409, it's a 380 horse.Canadian 348 and 409 pontiacs are a bit distinctive because they didn't have the stamped in Chevy bow tie on the valve covers like American W motors did.. As to the '65 409, only around 2800 were built, since the 396 came out in February,65, and there were two versions-a 400 horse with an aluminum high rise, big port heads, a large AFB, and a large chrome dual snorkel air cleaner.792 of those were built. The remaining 2000 or so were 340 horse hydraulic lifter small port engines with a cast iron or aluminum intake with a large rochester 4GC carb and a single snorkel chrome air cleaner. The 65 409's had an oddball oil pan and the exhaust manifolds were different from any other 409 in previous years. Neat cars if you find a correct one!!

Rory McNeil · 09-09-2009, 06:13 PM

Like Greg mentioned, our Canadian Pontiacs used Chevy running gear (and chassis too) thru the late 60`s, not sure when they started though. However they didn`t use the US Pontiac names, as I recall it, the base model was a "Strato Chief" (biscayne equivilent), followed by "Laurentian" "then "Parisienne", and the "Grand Parisienne" was the top of the line.So up here, 230/250 6 cyl. Powerglide, or 283/327 "Pontiacs were fairly common.I went to high school with a fellow student who drove a 66 Grand Parisienne Sport 2 dr HT, with a factory 427 4 speed, which was likely fairly rare. We also had Canadian "Beaumonts" based on the Chevelle, from 64 thru 69, and "Acadians" which were basically Novas, from 62 thru 68 or 69, all with Chevy running gear. I think that the only Pontiacs we had up here with actual Pontiac engines, were the Firebirds & GTO`s. But we never had the LeMans or Tempest models during the period that the Beaumonts were sold.The 409 Pontiacs were available in 62,63 & 64 for sure, not positive about 61 or 65 though. Maybe Aubrey can confirm or add to my recollection.

Ed Fernandez · 09-09-2009, 08:00 PM

Thanks for the replys guys.Joe if I had your money I'd burn the little I have.LOL

Jack McCarthy · 09-10-2009, 07:09 AM

contact aubrey brunneau... guy with 62 409 stocker on here... he knows

told me once more 409 in ponchos in canada than in US

jack

tj310 · 09-10-2009, 08:20 PM

Not an original car Catalina was U.S. Pontiac never a Canadian produced body . Canadian bodies were styled similar to U. S. but unique .U.S. Pontiacs could be ordered by dealers here in Canada but were quite a bit more expensive and at the time I don,t remember working on any. I lived Quite close to the Oshawa GM plant where Canadian Pontiacs were built. Rory,s information is correct I probably just remember back a little farther. Greg is right I recall seeing 409 Parisiennes back in the day {with leaking waterpumps}
Thanx Trevor

Michael Kilduff · 09-10-2009, 08:41 PM

Not to get off topic of the Catalina but did anybody see the mint Beaumont at ORP last week? I think it was a 66, the tail lights were very similar to a 66 chevelle. It was an ice blue color and I think had the factory hub caps but not sure. I pulled out behind him one night when leaving ORP and then another night he drove by me in the parking area for spectators. Great looking car.

Ed Fernandez · 09-10-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tj310

Not an original car Catalina was U.S. Pontiac never a Canadian produced body . Canadian bodies were styled similar to U. S. but unique .U.S. Pontiacs could be ordered by dealers here in Canada but were quite a bit more expensive and at the time I don,t remember working on any. I lived Quite close to the Oshawa GM plant where Canadian Pontiacs were built. Rory,s information is correct I probably just remember back a little farther. Greg is right I recall seeing 409 Parisiennes back in the day {with leaking waterpumps}
Thanx Trevor

My mistake,looked at the pic I took of the car and it is a Parissiane.Emblem is on front fender.

09-09-2009, 04:28 PM	#1
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	1962 Catalina How rare is a 1962 Pontiac Catalina Canadian market car with a 4 bbl 409?Saw one this weekend at Lead East.Looked like a nice car.Guy was from Long Island and wanted $30K. Also a 1962 Cat.with a 421 Pontiac.NJ car,not for sale,nicer than the Canadian car. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

09-09-2009, 05:12 PM	#2
Joe Abbazia Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 1962 Catalina Ed if I had your money I would have bought them both.I could see you know pulling into atco towing with a 62 cat.Stay well buddy.Joe.

09-09-2009, 05:43 PM	#3
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 1962 Catalina Not many of those around. Maybe a Pontiac nut will respond.(Friendly label). I saw a 65 Chevy with a 409 on E-bay for sale and hadnt remembered them available. It was a nice Red Big car....Real G-Whiz if you had the money.

09-09-2009, 05:59 PM	#4
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,136 Likes: 172 Liked 705 Times in 219 Posts	Re: 1962 Catalina Canadian Pontiacs used Chevy drive trains. If the car is a 62 with a 4 barrel 409, it's a 380 horse.Canadian 348 and 409 pontiacs are a bit distinctive because they didn't have the stamped in Chevy bow tie on the valve covers like American W motors did.. As to the '65 409, only around 2800 were built, since the 396 came out in February,65, and there were two versions-a 400 horse with an aluminum high rise, big port heads, a large AFB, and a large chrome dual snorkel air cleaner.792 of those were built. The remaining 2000 or so were 340 horse hydraulic lifter small port engines with a cast iron or aluminum intake with a large rochester 4GC carb and a single snorkel chrome air cleaner. The 65 409's had an oddball oil pan and the exhaust manifolds were different from any other 409 in previous years. Neat cars if you find a correct one!!

09-09-2009, 06:13 PM	#5
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,103 Times in 301 Posts	Re: 1962 Catalina Like Greg mentioned, our Canadian Pontiacs used Chevy running gear (and chassis too) thru the late 60`s, not sure when they started though. However they didn`t use the US Pontiac names, as I recall it, the base model was a "Strato Chief" (biscayne equivilent), followed by "Laurentian" "then "Parisienne", and the "Grand Parisienne" was the top of the line.So up here, 230/250 6 cyl. Powerglide, or 283/327 "Pontiacs were fairly common.I went to high school with a fellow student who drove a 66 Grand Parisienne Sport 2 dr HT, with a factory 427 4 speed, which was likely fairly rare. We also had Canadian "Beaumonts" based on the Chevelle, from 64 thru 69, and "Acadians" which were basically Novas, from 62 thru 68 or 69, all with Chevy running gear. I think that the only Pontiacs we had up here with actual Pontiac engines, were the Firebirds & GTO`s. But we never had the LeMans or Tempest models during the period that the Beaumonts were sold.The 409 Pontiacs were available in 62,63 & 64 for sure, not positive about 61 or 65 though. Maybe Aubrey can confirm or add to my recollection. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

09-09-2009, 08:00 PM	#6
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: 1962 Catalina Thanks for the replys guys.Joe if I had your money I'd burn the little I have.LOL __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

09-10-2009, 07:09 AM	#7
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 476 Times in 117 Posts	Re: 1962 Catalina contact aubrey brunneau... guy with 62 409 stocker on here... he knows told me once more 409 in ponchos in canada than in US jack __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

09-10-2009, 08:20 PM	#8
tj310 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dresden On. Canada Posts: 460 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1962 Catalina Not an original car Catalina was U.S. Pontiac never a Canadian produced body . Canadian bodies were styled similar to U. S. but unique .U.S. Pontiacs could be ordered by dealers here in Canada but were quite a bit more expensive and at the time I don,t remember working on any. I lived Quite close to the Oshawa GM plant where Canadian Pontiacs were built. Rory,s information is correct I probably just remember back a little farther. Greg is right I recall seeing 409 Parisiennes back in the day {with leaking waterpumps} Thanx Trevor

09-10-2009, 08:41 PM	#9
Michael Kilduff Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carolina Beach, NC Posts: 281 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1962 Catalina Not to get off topic of the Catalina but did anybody see the mint Beaumont at ORP last week? I think it was a 66, the tail lights were very similar to a 66 chevelle. It was an ice blue color and I think had the factory hub caps but not sure. I pulled out behind him one night when leaving ORP and then another night he drove by me in the parking area for spectators. Great looking car.