Info on Body in White Camaro

Mark Ruset · 09-17-2009, 10:10 AM

To: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, HUMMER and Pontiac (including MD)

DESCRIPTION:

GM Performance Parts announces the release of the Camaro Body-In-White.

EFFECTIVE DATE:

Immediately

ORDER INPUT:

Orders will be held on "backorder" status until the assembly plant has a body to fill the order.

GENERAL INFORMATION:

Ø Part Number: 19243374

Ø Dealer Price: $6,800

Ø Body will be non-returnable and have no warranty.

Ø The body will not have a Vehicle Identification Number and will not be street legal.

Ø It will be sold as an empty shell chassis for race car building purposes.

Ø It will be strapped to a large wooden pallet that can be moved around with a fork truck.

Ø The body-in-white will have "swing metal"—door shells, front and rear decklid, fenders, etc. See the attached guide for parts the customer may need to finish their vehicle for racing.

Ø Bodies are "blemished" with minor defects.

Ø Colors cannot be specified.

Ø Dealers are required to have customers sign an acknowledgement form before they pick up the body that would state the body is for off road use only.

Ø The acknowledgment form is attached and is also available online at: http://www.GMPerformanceParts.com/Ra...010-camaro.jsp.

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denny harvey · 09-17-2009, 06:20 PM

thanks for the info,my brother in s.c. has been looking on the net for weeks for this info with no luck.his company wants to build one to showcase what the aftermarket is doing for these cars for the street pro/street crowd..

Harry 6674 · 09-18-2009, 08:47 AM

two grand more than the mustangs and their blems. I wonder why that companys hurtin?

Aaron Allison · 09-18-2009, 10:25 AM

The average person will not be able to even notice the blems that they are talking about. GM has very high standard for production vehicles today and very small problems will make a car non saleable. Also many of these cars are preproduction so they will be perfect but also nonsaleable.

Don Whitmore · 09-18-2009, 05:11 PM

When will they be in the guide and at what hp and ship weight???????????

W J · 09-18-2009, 06:26 PM

Hopefully they'll be factored to race the CJ's and Challengers....

WJ

Alan Roehrich · 09-19-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Whitmore

When will they be in the guide and at what hp and ship weight???????????

After you've placed your order/made your commitment.

I'm as big a GM fan as anyone, a die hard, dyed in the wool, hardcore GM fan. I'd love to get excited about the program. But so far it's almost an insult, it has been handled so poorly. It's considerably more expensive than the Mustang, it's behind schedule, and the flow of information is almost non existent. It's almost as if they're trying to make it so difficult as to kill it before it gets started.

They don't really do much to help you that I see. Looks more like they're trying to turn a profit by selling "blems" as opposed to fixing them or crushing them, rather than trying to help racers.

SPS · 09-19-2009, 08:37 PM

The way I read this, these aren't really bodies-in-white at all. They are bodies after sealer and paint that don't pass inspection. Read "colour cannot be specified"
A real body-in-white, and I've probably built more than anybody, is a bare shell with or without E-coat before finishing....the best way to build a clean, light racecar.

I have to agree with Alan, not much effort to support a real race program.

Too bad.

FJ

Don Whitmore · 09-20-2009, 07:32 AM

Guess the old saying, 'actions speak louder than words,' really applies here, as it seems GM has done very little, isn't doing much now, and isn't planning to do much to get the Camaro on the track.

Based on what I've seen, factory V8 ship weight would have to be around 3600# with factored HP staying at 426 HP to get into A/SA. Same numbers put it in SS/EA.

This Camaro needs a diet...

09-17-2009, 10:10 AM	#1
Mark Ruset Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 263 Likes: 35 Liked 43 Times in 29 Posts	Info on Body in White Camaro To: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, HUMMER and Pontiac (including MD) DESCRIPTION: GM Performance Parts announces the release of the Camaro Body-In-White. EFFECTIVE DATE: Immediately ORDER INPUT: Orders will be held on "backorder" status until the assembly plant has a body to fill the order. GENERAL INFORMATION: Ø Part Number: 19243374 Ø Dealer Price: $6,800 Ø Body will be non-returnable and have no warranty. Ø The body will not have a Vehicle Identification Number and will not be street legal. Ø It will be sold as an empty shell chassis for race car building purposes. Ø It will be strapped to a large wooden pallet that can be moved around with a fork truck. Ø The body-in-white will have "swing metal"—door shells, front and rear decklid, fenders, etc. See the attached guide for parts the customer may need to finish their vehicle for racing. Ø Bodies are "blemished" with minor defects. Ø Colors cannot be specified. Ø Dealers are required to have customers sign an acknowledgement form before they pick up the body that would state the body is for off road use only. Ø The acknowledgment form is attached and is also available online at: http://www.GMPerformanceParts.com/Ra...010-camaro.jsp. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________ Mark Ruset 2048 STK

09-17-2009, 06:20 PM	#2
denny harvey Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: pataskala ohio Posts: 132 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Info on Body in White Camaro thanks for the info,my brother in s.c. has been looking on the net for weeks for this info with no luck.his company wants to build one to showcase what the aftermarket is doing for these cars for the street pro/street crowd..

09-18-2009, 08:47 AM	#3
Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Info on Body in White Camaro two grand more than the mustangs and their blems. I wonder why that companys hurtin?

09-18-2009, 10:25 AM	#4
Aaron Allison Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: East Palestine, OH Posts: 219 Likes: 4 Liked 150 Times in 43 Posts	Re: Info on Body in White Camaro The average person will not be able to even notice the blems that they are talking about. GM has very high standard for production vehicles today and very small problems will make a car non saleable. Also many of these cars are preproduction so they will be perfect but also nonsaleable. __________________ Aaron Allison 395 STK, 395 SS, 3395 SC

09-18-2009, 05:11 PM	#5
Don Whitmore Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 140 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Info on Body in White Camaro When will they be in the guide and at what hp and ship weight???????????

09-18-2009, 06:26 PM	#6
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Info on Body in White Camaro Hopefully they'll be factored to race the CJ's and Challengers.... WJ

09-19-2009, 08:37 PM	#8
SPS Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cayuga, Canada Posts: 298 Likes: 37 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Info on Body in White Camaro The way I read this, these aren't really bodies-in-white at all. They are bodies after sealer and paint that don't pass inspection. Read "colour cannot be specified" A real body-in-white, and I've probably built more than anybody, is a bare shell with or without E-coat before finishing....the best way to build a clean, light racecar. I have to agree with Alan, not much effort to support a real race program. Too bad. FJ

09-20-2009, 07:32 AM	#9
Don Whitmore Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 140 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Info on Body in White Camaro Guess the old saying, 'actions speak louder than words,' really applies here, as it seems GM has done very little, isn't doing much now, and isn't planning to do much to get the Camaro on the track. Based on what I've seen, factory V8 ship weight would have to be around 3600# with factored HP staying at 426 HP to get into A/SA. Same numbers put it in SS/EA. This Camaro needs a diet...