Kearney Ne, Open National Records

dwydendorf · 10-06-2009, 08:06 AM

Ford did not do anything different than what Government Motors racing group has done for the last 40 years or so. Remember the 255 hp 350 back in 1969 or the Oldsmobiles of the 1980's or the LS1's of the 1990's. All were underfactored in their day. The car Companies want their race cars to go fast, to sell new cars, so they used the system to their advantage, but saying they cheated the system is your words, not Fords. How come no one complained about Irvin Johns Drag Pac Challenger being number one qualifyer at the Columbus Sportsnationals last week? Bruce is still sore because the Cobra Jets rained on his A/sa Corvette parade, but the Cobra Jets aren't the only game in town, so get used to it. Maybe the Performance Group at GM will step up to the plate with a competitive new Camaro, if they can get it by Congress.

Bruce Noland · 10-06-2009, 08:24 AM

Dear no-namer Ford Guy,

GM never showed up at SEMA and said they were hiding their Horsepower numbers from nhra. The rest of your post is hooey.

Jimmy - Jeff,

I hope you guys brought enough junk food for everybody.

Jack,

The barn the horse escaped from is smoldering. Glad to see you have seen the light.

dwydendorf · 10-06-2009, 08:38 AM

Do you really think that GM or Chrysler would openly submit their Horsepower Sheets to NHRA ? My real name is right there in Black and White ( or maybe Gray) if you can figure it out. I will give you a clue, as I go by Dennis.

Bruce Noland · 10-06-2009, 08:48 AM

Dennis,

GM never said they were hiding their numbers from nhra.

Jack Matyas · 10-06-2009, 09:00 AM

Bruce -- All the car companies "fudge" a little -- its their job .If you remember I had the first '97 Firebird Formula ILE Ram Air with an automatic transmission - did you think I had " Job One " ? ( that even sounds a little like Ford ) Anyway the new wave of muscle cars are here - get used to it .I'd still like to have one of those Mustangs - they really are neat ................

PS - You also must have forgotten about my factory backed Olds Cutlass in the Eighties - they did more than fudge - but like all the rest it does catch up .........As you should be able to tell by now I'm well aware of whar factories can do ........look what they did for the Hemi .

Bruce Noland · 10-06-2009, 09:07 AM

Jack,

They are neat race cars. I have said it many times. Fudge a little?

Jim Ronzello · 10-06-2009, 09:29 AM

Bruce,
Will you be racing at the Dutch? George and I are thinking about going and I would like to meet you as it seems that you are as passionate about sportsman drag racing as the best of us. Of course I will bring the popcorn, Jeff can bring his goodies, the fella that suggested the Italian beer (can't remember his name because somehow his post is missing, or maybe I dreamt up that one) can bring the beer, I think Dennis will go, maybe Jerry Maxwell, love to meet Jack as well, anyway if you go, that might just be enough to get the rest of us there- we will all have a grand ole time. Do you think you could get behind the wheel of the CJ? I am not kidding, you would absolutely love to drive this car. ANY one of you are welcome to come by our pit, ask anybody that knows me, at the track, I talk to everybody, maybe too much at times- sorry for that! Thanks, Jimmy

Bruce Noland · 10-06-2009, 09:50 AM

Jimmy,

I do plan to go to the Dutch. But as a spectator. I don't drink any booze but I'll take you up on the popcorn.

X-TECH MAN · 10-06-2009, 09:57 AM

Maybe the time has come to classify stock and S/S by another means other than Factory, factored, or "Dart Board" HP per wt.???? They ALL seem bogus except for the ones that are not competitive. Cubic inches maybe? Add 1 1/2 times the cubes for a blower or turbo? Naaaaa, none of that would work either.

Jack McCarthy · 10-06-2009, 10:46 AM

crystal ball 101...

now that ford is selling bodies in white & drag kits (remember when we talked about just 50 of them?) soon mopar will follow, and whenever gm gets its $$ better theirs will be out too...

2010 us nationals :
top 128 qualifiers are all one of the three (or two) and EVERYONE else is not in the show...

did ya'll think wally was an idiot to insure EVERY class was represented in the eliminator ???

jack mccarthy

fast guys get thier way...and sometimes it bites them

10-06-2009, 08:06 AM	#1
dwydendorf Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 162 Likes: 251 Liked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Ford did not do anything different than what Government Motors racing group has done for the last 40 years or so. Remember the 255 hp 350 back in 1969 or the Oldsmobiles of the 1980's or the LS1's of the 1990's. All were underfactored in their day. The car Companies want their race cars to go fast, to sell new cars, so they used the system to their advantage, but saying they cheated the system is your words, not Fords. How come no one complained about Irvin Johns Drag Pac Challenger being number one qualifyer at the Columbus Sportsnationals last week? Bruce is still sore because the Cobra Jets rained on his A/sa Corvette parade, but the Cobra Jets aren't the only game in town, so get used to it. Maybe the Performance Group at GM will step up to the plate with a competitive new Camaro, if they can get it by Congress. __________________ ss/gt 93 t-bird

10-06-2009, 08:24 AM	#2
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Dear no-namer Ford Guy, GM never showed up at SEMA and said they were hiding their Horsepower numbers from nhra. The rest of your post is hooey. Jimmy - Jeff, I hope you guys brought enough junk food for everybody. Jack, The barn the horse escaped from is smoldering. Glad to see you have seen the light. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

10-06-2009, 08:38 AM	#3
dwydendorf Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 162 Likes: 251 Liked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Do you really think that GM or Chrysler would openly submit their Horsepower Sheets to NHRA ? My real name is right there in Black and White ( or maybe Gray) if you can figure it out. I will give you a clue, as I go by Dennis. __________________ ss/gt 93 t-bird Last edited by dwydendorf; 10-06-2009 at 08:42 AM.

10-06-2009, 08:48 AM	#4
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Dennis, GM never said they were hiding their numbers from nhra. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

10-06-2009, 09:00 AM	#5
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,932 Likes: 408 Liked 2,052 Times in 400 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Bruce -- All the car companies "fudge" a little -- its their job .If you remember I had the first '97 Firebird Formula ILE Ram Air with an automatic transmission - did you think I had " Job One " ? ( that even sounds a little like Ford ) Anyway the new wave of muscle cars are here - get used to it .I'd still like to have one of those Mustangs - they really are neat ................ PS - You also must have forgotten about my factory backed Olds Cutlass in the Eighties - they did more than fudge - but like all the rest it does catch up .........As you should be able to tell by now I'm well aware of whar factories can do ........look what they did for the Hemi . __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

10-06-2009, 09:07 AM	#6
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Jack, They are neat race cars. I have said it many times. Fudge a little? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

10-06-2009, 09:29 AM	#7
Jim Ronzello Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rockwood, Michigan Posts: 13 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Bruce, Will you be racing at the Dutch? George and I are thinking about going and I would like to meet you as it seems that you are as passionate about sportsman drag racing as the best of us. Of course I will bring the popcorn, Jeff can bring his goodies, the fella that suggested the Italian beer (can't remember his name because somehow his post is missing, or maybe I dreamt up that one) can bring the beer, I think Dennis will go, maybe Jerry Maxwell, love to meet Jack as well, anyway if you go, that might just be enough to get the rest of us there- we will all have a grand ole time. Do you think you could get behind the wheel of the CJ? I am not kidding, you would absolutely love to drive this car. ANY one of you are welcome to come by our pit, ask anybody that knows me, at the track, I talk to everybody, maybe too much at times- sorry for that! Thanks, Jimmy

10-06-2009, 09:50 AM	#8
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Jimmy, I do plan to go to the Dutch. But as a spectator. I don't drink any booze but I'll take you up on the popcorn. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

10-06-2009, 09:57 AM	#9
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records Maybe the time has come to classify stock and S/S by another means other than Factory, factored, or "Dart Board" HP per wt.???? They ALL seem bogus except for the ones that are not competitive. Cubic inches maybe? Add 1 1/2 times the cubes for a blower or turbo? Naaaaa, none of that would work either.

10-06-2009, 10:46 AM	#10
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 477 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Kearney Ne, Open National Records crystal ball 101... now that ford is selling bodies in white & drag kits (remember when we talked about just 50 of them?) soon mopar will follow, and whenever gm gets its $$ better theirs will be out too... 2010 us nationals : top 128 qualifiers are all one of the three (or two) and EVERYONE else is not in the show... did ya'll think wally was an idiot to insure EVERY class was represented in the eliminator ??? jack mccarthy fast guys get thier way...and sometimes it bites them __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"