Lencos in SS

X-TECH MAN · 11-02-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Danny Gracia informed Rob Youngblood at last weekends Vegas race that the clutchless trans will be acceptable for use next year

Tony........It looks Like "DANNY BOY" is one of the likely ones who lit the fuse on the can of S&@T you mentioned.

Ed Carpenter · 11-02-2009, 05:47 PM

Allowing a clutchless trans in SS is more bulls**t. I wonder who was lobbying for this. This just seperates the have and the have nots even more. I was warned about getting into SS and I should have listened. Hard work only goes so far. It takes money to go fast and alot of it. Super Stock racing is fun, but where do all these rule changes stop.

Ed Carpenter · 11-02-2009, 10:31 PM

Jeff,

I sent in my Long shifter this past summer to be updated to pistol grip. i looked up my receipt and paid 209.00 including tax. Ed

SSDA3426 · 11-03-2009, 01:51 AM

Well As Tony Knows(And Many Others Here That Class Race)There's NEVER Any Certainty To ANYTHING In Racing...How Many Times Have You All Traveled To And From An Event Without SOMETHING Unplanned Happening?!If You Can Count On Your Hands You Musta Not Been Racin Long OR DAMN Lucky!!...I Have Traveled To Tracks And They Nit Pick Your Equipment To Death(Little things)and the Next Guy With A HUGE Name rolls in and they Wave At Them..Shake Their Hand And Pass Them Without Them Ever Bringing Their Vehicle into Tech......I've Seen It Happen WAY TOO Many Times....Even When Records Are Set There Are Short Cuts For These Same People When My Car Is Scattered For Twelve States To Verify....This Is A Game..We Will Continue To Play And Pay...We'll Bitch,Well Kick,Well Scratch But We Wont Bite And Well Play By What Rules They Make Up For Us Because We Want To Play...NOTHING Will Ever Change..It Hasnt In 50+ Years and Aint Now because Some Of Us Are Bitchin About It...I Found This Out YEARS ago....
I Dont Even Have The Dough To Be Competitive Right Now...BUT Assure You..As Soon As I Do I Will Be Back And Am Seriously Thinking About SHAKING HANDS Again In My Car.
We Used to Go To National Events with at least 4 trannys...2 Autos,2 Manuals...Change It All And Race At The Track with the Lighter(Less Entries)Class..Hell Me And Phil Rohr Changed Up Between the Two Of Us YEARS Ago in My Car in Cajun Nationals...1 in Manual 1 in Auto...Those Were The Days...Those Were The Days......Sad Theyre Gone And The Modern Pencil Pushing None Race Driver Concerned Track Managers and Rule Developers Are Here Now...My Cousin "Bullet Bob" Just Bit The Wall in his NEW Car at Charlotte This Weekend Because Of LACK of CONCERN on the Tracks Behalf.....

Oh Well...Like Was said Before..These Are Just Our Rants And May Be Heard But Will Not Be Cared About by the Officials.....

SS

Mark Yacavone · 12-13-2009, 11:35 PM

Nobody's figured this out yet?
Just another step towards combining sticks and automatics .

bill dedman · 12-14-2009, 03:30 AM

Shoot; just give the sticks clutchless shifting, and some sort of electronic clutch release, and to "level the playing field," give the automatics transbrakes, and lockup convertors...

I'm talking Stock Eliminator, here...

That ought to keep the contingency sponsors happy for awhile... and, everybody will be happier, except the guys who have to quit racing because the increased cost of funding the new-order (read: QUICKER), is impossible, in this down economy....

OH, and NHRA can lay-off even more tech people since they won't have to be policing clutchless 4-speeds and looking for transbrakes and lockup converters (they DO do that, don't they???)

X-TECH MAN · 12-14-2009, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Nobody's figured this out yet?
Just another step towards combining sticks and automatics .

This is NOT a bad thing with current technology.

james schaechter · 11-03-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by deuces wild

Allowing a clutchless trans in SS is more bulls**t. I wonder who was lobbying for this. This just seperates the have and the have nots even more. I was warned about getting into SS and I should have listened. Hard work only goes so far. It takes money to go fast and alot of it. Super Stock racing is fun, but where do all these rule changes stop.

I am sure this will become all too obvious. As in most investigations, follow the money and sometimes the family tree too.

X-TECH MAN · 11-03-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter

I am sure this will become all too obvious. As in most investigations, follow the money and sometimes the family tree too.

I guess you did not read my prior post. Can we say Gracia as in Danny and his "Family Tree" SS/AH project unless my under cover "spies" have it all wrong. I guess he cant drive a "real" 4 speed running in the 8's and needs all the help he can get.....LOL.

BlueOval Ralph · 11-03-2009, 07:25 AM

Great minds think alike! I was thinking the same thing and have been told that he can't !! Funny how the word gets around! As I remember when GM supplied him a Pro Stock Truck he had a hard time with it!

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I guess you did not read my prior post. Can we say Gracia as in Danny and his "Family Tree" SS/AH project unless my under cover "spies" have it all wrong. I guess he cant drive a "real" 4 speed running in the 8's and needs all the help he can get.....LOL.

11-02-2009, 05:47 PM	#2
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,710 Likes: 187 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS Allowing a clutchless trans in SS is more bulls**t. I wonder who was lobbying for this. This just seperates the have and the have nots even more. I was warned about getting into SS and I should have listened. Hard work only goes so far. It takes money to go fast and alot of it. Super Stock racing is fun, but where do all these rule changes stop. __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

11-02-2009, 10:31 PM	#3
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,710 Likes: 187 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS Jeff, I sent in my Long shifter this past summer to be updated to pistol grip. i looked up my receipt and paid 209.00 including tax. Ed __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

11-03-2009, 01:51 AM	#4
SSDA3426 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: North West Ohio Posts: 9 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS Well As Tony Knows(And Many Others Here That Class Race)There's NEVER Any Certainty To ANYTHING In Racing...How Many Times Have You All Traveled To And From An Event Without SOMETHING Unplanned Happening?!If You Can Count On Your Hands You Musta Not Been Racin Long OR DAMN Lucky!!...I Have Traveled To Tracks And They Nit Pick Your Equipment To Death(Little things)and the Next Guy With A HUGE Name rolls in and they Wave At Them..Shake Their Hand And Pass Them Without Them Ever Bringing Their Vehicle into Tech......I've Seen It Happen WAY TOO Many Times....Even When Records Are Set There Are Short Cuts For These Same People When My Car Is Scattered For Twelve States To Verify....This Is A Game..We Will Continue To Play And Pay...We'll Bitch,Well Kick,Well Scratch But We Wont Bite And Well Play By What Rules They Make Up For Us Because We Want To Play...NOTHING Will Ever Change..It Hasnt In 50+ Years and Aint Now because Some Of Us Are Bitchin About It...I Found This Out YEARS ago.... I Dont Even Have The Dough To Be Competitive Right Now...BUT Assure You..As Soon As I Do I Will Be Back And Am Seriously Thinking About SHAKING HANDS Again In My Car. We Used to Go To National Events with at least 4 trannys...2 Autos,2 Manuals...Change It All And Race At The Track with the Lighter(Less Entries)Class..Hell Me And Phil Rohr Changed Up Between the Two Of Us YEARS Ago in My Car in Cajun Nationals...1 in Manual 1 in Auto...Those Were The Days...Those Were The Days......Sad Theyre Gone And The Modern Pencil Pushing None Race Driver Concerned Track Managers and Rule Developers Are Here Now...My Cousin "Bullet Bob" Just Bit The Wall in his NEW Car at Charlotte This Weekend Because Of LACK of CONCERN on the Tracks Behalf..... Oh Well...Like Was said Before..These Are Just Our Rants And May Be Heard But Will Not Be Cared About by the Officials..... SS

12-13-2009, 11:35 PM	#5
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,836 Likes: 2,928 Liked 5,147 Times in 1,964 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS Nobody's figured this out yet? Just another step towards combining sticks and automatics . __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

12-14-2009, 03:30 AM	#6
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS Shoot; just give the sticks clutchless shifting, and some sort of electronic clutch release, and to "level the playing field," give the automatics transbrakes, and lockup convertors... I'm talking Stock Eliminator, here... That ought to keep the contingency sponsors happy for awhile... and, everybody will be happier, except the guys who have to quit racing because the increased cost of funding the new-order (read: QUICKER), is impossible, in this down economy.... OH, and NHRA can lay-off even more tech people since they won't have to be policing clutchless 4-speeds and looking for transbrakes and lockup converters (they DO do that, don't they???) __________________ Bill