Economy vs. Economics

Jeff Colvert · 11-17-2009, 02:37 PM

Chairman heck, I'll vote Pat for President!! Sack of Mud Bugs in every pot. Thanks Pat for looking out for our sport & drivers.

Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456

Urraco · 11-17-2009, 10:30 PM

If NHRA cared about the little guys it would be different, but they dont.

Ed Fernandez · 11-17-2009, 10:38 PM

Hey,what happened to Mark's post??????????????????????????

Casey Miles · 11-18-2009, 10:01 AM

In these harsh economic times even the big bracket races that take place down here in Florida are taking a beating. When I first moved down here (1992), the 5 Day at Moroso had about 370 to 390 cars if I recall correctly, this year there about 130 cars. Some of the lost car count has to do with the track operation but most of it is from the economy. Immoc Winter Warm up had something like 70 to 80 cars and Gmp had somewhere around 120 cars. This should be sending a message to NHRA and IHRA that they can't keep operating as they did and that they should take into consideration that not everyone has the deep pockets that used to prevail. I'm repeating myself in past posts, that I looked at the lousey $10 (from $150 to $160) increase in the entry fee for a D2 race, which made me make a decision that I will not attend a D2 race until they start lower the entry fees.
The entry fee for the D2 races should also support a much more lucritive purse for the racers also. Pay $160 to win a $1000, (can't include decals) is crazy when I can pay $40 to win $650 at my local track.
NHRA, WAKE UP!!!

Casey Miles
248H

chris ok · 11-18-2009, 10:09 AM

Pat, running a 10.0 index is a great idea. the 12.0 or 11.5, 10.0, and 8.50 is really popular here in the north east. packs of door cars, muscle cars, street cars.. on DOT tires. big classes now at the jersey area tracks. lots of fun, no delay boxes. heads up to the finish. wish I could class race w my car, but I can index w my car.
puts fans in the seats. they understand first to the finish.

treessavoy · 11-18-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chris ok

Pat, running a 10.0 index is a great idea. the 12.0 or 11.5, 10.0, and 8.50 is really popular here in the north east. packs of door cars, muscle cars, street cars.. on DOT tires. big classes now at the jersey area tracks. lots of fun, no delay boxes. heads up to the finish. wish I could class race w my car, but I can index w my car.
puts fans in the seats. they understand first to the finish.

This is what the NMCA has been doing for years. Index racing, break out and you're gone, no electronics, just stab and steer.

JimR

nopwradders · 11-18-2009, 02:55 PM

Sounds like the AHRA is going to be the best way to go. From what I have been reading, they are supposed to be doing things the way the racers and tracks want things done. Completley opposite of the NHRA. They are looking out for the "grass roots racers", not the racers who have multi millions to spend. Pat, you have always been ahead of the game, maybe its time to drop NHRA and switch to AHRA? I bet Paul has some memories of the old AHRA.

11-17-2009, 02:37 PM	#1
Jeff Colvert Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkadelphia, AR Posts: 289 Likes: 8 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Chairman heck, I'll vote Pat for President!! Sack of Mud Bugs in every pot. Thanks Pat for looking out for our sport & drivers. Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456

11-17-2009, 10:30 PM	#2
Urraco Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics If NHRA cared about the little guys it would be different, but they dont.

11-17-2009, 10:38 PM	#3
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Hey,what happened to Mark's post?????????????????????????? __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

11-18-2009, 10:01 AM	#4
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics In these harsh economic times even the big bracket races that take place down here in Florida are taking a beating. When I first moved down here (1992), the 5 Day at Moroso had about 370 to 390 cars if I recall correctly, this year there about 130 cars. Some of the lost car count has to do with the track operation but most of it is from the economy. Immoc Winter Warm up had something like 70 to 80 cars and Gmp had somewhere around 120 cars. This should be sending a message to NHRA and IHRA that they can't keep operating as they did and that they should take into consideration that not everyone has the deep pockets that used to prevail. I'm repeating myself in past posts, that I looked at the lousey $10 (from $150 to $160) increase in the entry fee for a D2 race, which made me make a decision that I will not attend a D2 race until they start lower the entry fees. The entry fee for the D2 races should also support a much more lucritive purse for the racers also. Pay $160 to win a $1000, (can't include decals) is crazy when I can pay $40 to win $650 at my local track. NHRA, WAKE UP!!! Casey Miles 248H

11-18-2009, 10:09 AM	#5
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Pat, running a 10.0 index is a great idea. the 12.0 or 11.5, 10.0, and 8.50 is really popular here in the north east. packs of door cars, muscle cars, street cars.. on DOT tires. big classes now at the jersey area tracks. lots of fun, no delay boxes. heads up to the finish. wish I could class race w my car, but I can index w my car. puts fans in the seats. they understand first to the finish.

11-18-2009, 02:55 PM	#7
nopwradders Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 22 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Sounds like the AHRA is going to be the best way to go. From what I have been reading, they are supposed to be doing things the way the racers and tracks want things done. Completley opposite of the NHRA. They are looking out for the "grass roots racers", not the racers who have multi millions to spend. Pat, you have always been ahead of the game, maybe its time to drop NHRA and switch to AHRA? I bet Paul has some memories of the old AHRA.