Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga.

[Jim Wahl]

It is quite evident that the Sportsman cars without the Alcohol track greasers can support (expense wise) themselves and make the tracks a profit at the same time. If NHRA wants the tracks to run the Alcohol cars then they need to step up and at least help to pay for the payouts! Why should Top Alcohol cars incur no expense at all? They pay nothing to get in and do nothing but cost the track operator $20 to $30 grand per event! That is pure profit loss for them. A perfect example of how it *could* be done is the Cajun SportsNationals @ Belle Rose. Pat knows and has made no secret of how it works! Stock/ Super Stock/ Comp classes with some fun races thrown in for good measure. Craig, Woody and Rollins are right on! The fact remains that if NHRA didn't ram the Alcohol down the track operator's throats is they would die a slow death. Top Dragster and Pro Mod is squeezing them out. No more free ride, everybody pays their way as we have been doing all along. Jim

[DK FRAZIER]

Mechanical Rain Delay LOL
What a great quote

[Woodro Josey]

Right on Jim,,,,time has come for NHRA to step up or there won't be any divisional races in the near future!

[Larry Ericksmoen]

I guess we are all wondering why the NHRA doesn't make common sense business decisions for themselves, their partners and their customers to increase profitability and customer satisfaction. The track owners, Manufacturers and the racers all get frustrated with the lack of appreciation and apathy that comes from the NHRA.
This is because the NHRA, like our freaking Goverment, doesn't have anyone in charge that has a BRAIN, or gives a **** about the people paying the BILLS. As car counts go down or people lose their jobs they just charge more or TAX more on the people who show up.
NHRA sportsman cars or cool, people will pay to see them, IF there was some promotion involved. Nobody pays to see Alcohol cars because nobody wants to see them! Why should 300 other racers pay high entry fees so a few alcohol racers can be paid to do their hobby. ITS ABSURD.
There are other drag racing shows out there that attracting huge crowds, those promoters are working at it, These NHRA points races haven't changed for YEARS(35 ?)
They need some FRESH ideas, and some effort into promotion. DAMM
I just watched the evening news and got all fired up. lol

[Craig Couris]

Doug,

It is a great quote but I stole it from Robbie Shaw.


Couris

[DK FRAZIER]

As I recall we were all standing at the fence at Silver Dollar watching the kerosene sideshow when He first called them that, its still as funny now as when I first heard it.

Larry, good post I get mad when I watch the news too

[Mike Crutchfield]

Guys
Like it or not Alcohol is part of the NHRA Div. Sportsman Racing Program. To suggest throwing them out is not the answer. I don't want any class to get the news your not welcome here anymore because you cost too much. That's not to say that they should'nt pay there way the same as all sportsman racers do. If we were racing for 5 times the money and two or three less rounds as they are they should'nt mind paying a fair entry fee and crew passes proportionate to the payout. The problem would not be near as bad and the track operator could deal with it a little better.
I think we all agee the problem is real and NHRA needs to deal with it.
Throwing them out is not the answer. Be carefull what you wish for your class may be next.

Mike

[Larry Ericksmoen]

I don't think that the Alcohol classed should be deleted either. I do agree that they should pay the same entry fee/pit passes as the other classes AND race for the same purse as the other classes. If the Alcohol classes don't draw spectators to the event, for the benefit of the event and other competitors, then why the extra payout, and burden on the track owner and other competitors?
Of course these cars cost a lot to run, but look around the pits, people spend a lot on their cars in every class.

[Jeff Goss]

Boise, ID runs a Divisional without Alcohol cars.

They, instead, run a very entertaining Nitro Nostalgia deal.

It might be of interest to contact Firebird Raceway and ask the "New Crew" how they make money without Alcohol cars.

Jeff

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Larry Ericksmoen

I don't think that the Alcohol classed should be deleted either. I do agree that they should pay the same entry fee/pit passes as the other classes AND race for the same purse as the other classes. If the Alcohol classes don't draw spectators to the event, for the benefit of the event and other competitors, then why the extra payout, and burden on the track owner and other competitors?
Of course these cars cost a lot to run, but look around the pits, people spend a lot on their cars in every class.

I'd venture to say that some comp cars could easily be as expensive as a TAD