Hood Scoops to Comp

[buzzinhalfdozen]

John Stock, you hit the nail on the head For me anyway, Pump, Weigh, you're good. I really love racing, however after leaning over fenders all week pulling a head or a rod and piston on my race car isn't at the top of my list. I admire all those who chose to do it and anyone who knows me is aware I'm not afraid to work. For me racing is like a mini vacation, I'll work on my junk if I have to, but I prefer to do my work in the shop. Hey if I could afford to run Comp I'd probably do so but it's just too far out there for me. I think if you look at the fastest scoop cars you'll see for the most part these are the guys who have the funds and other resourses to have a fast ride in any configuration. Joe

[randy wilson]

to you comp guys, my hats off to you. you are good at what you do. it does take hardwork to run in there. i am a little to old to get that interested in it, but my partner in crime steve thompson will work that hard if we decide to get serious. no threat to you guys, but you would see us improve as the year goes on.first time out at test and tune at eddeville went 5.86, 119.90 1/8 on 5.91 G/SM. not great but beats a kick in the ***. my question is why does comp not have 1 or 2 classes with spec heads and limited mods to bring the car count back up. also, brian potts, how are you doing? we just 2 months ago got the cobalt to 60 ft. with your camaro, with the same exact drivetrain it went 1 hundreth quicker.

[Jim Storms]

There should be no hood scoops allowed is ss!!! Unless.... They came from the factory that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................

[Don Eckel 111]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

Don : good posts so what is the answer for comp if there really is a problem ? or am i just wrong about comp being in trouble ? i really like comp and other than Super Stock and Stock i watch comp by the way

It's really hard to say what an end all answer would be. It's such a unique class. Minimizing costs and increasing the purse might help, but I won't hold my breath for those, especially the latter. I can't imagine it going away, yet I know of at least 4 or 5 more cars that won't be in comp anymore. I even questioned myself as far as building a new one after my old one got wrecked. Here in D1 car counts are still decent in comp but not what they used to be. I've been at a few races not too many years ago where we had 50+.
On another note, what would happen to Pro Stock if Comp went away? Comp has been a natural stepping stone for a good percentage of guys in that class.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Jim Storms, so what about the GT cars. When did they build a rear wheel drive Escort or Cobalt or Avenger or G5 ? When was a V-8 available in these cars? Careful what you wish for......Joe We need to face it FWD conversion cars changed the complexion of S/S for better or worse, I personally like them. Without some of these new cars and classes S/S would be pretty slim on car counts. IMO

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by randy wilson

my question is why does comp not have 1 or 2 classes with spec heads and limited mods to bring the car count back up.

In 1999, NHRA proposed several new "entry level" classes for Comp that were designed to be somewhat affordable. The idea was quickly shot down as they didn't think it was fair that someone could compete in Comp on a much smaller budget than everyone else.

Virtually at the same time, Billy Nees had an idea for a new heads-up class that would have taken a huge amount of the development expense out of racing. The idea could have also been applied to Comp and in the long-term reduce expenditures for everyone. I and others did extensive computer modeling on the concept, and it worked amazingly well. It made too much sense to actually implement, though. Since it was his concept, I'll allow him to spill the beans if he so chooses.

[randy wilson]

both good concepts michael, i remember the 1999 class concept, and wondered what happened to it. they will eventually have to do something or it will price itself out. i would not care what head or mods they allow, just stick with one and go. this (get the latest head trick) has got to stop.

[Billy Nees]

Michael, basically "our" idea was pushed aside by what became Top Dragster and Top Sportsman. I have resigned myself to the fact that NHRA and it's Sportsman Racers do not want an "affordable" way to go racing and they don't have room for any more Eliminators. NHRA wants us to pump as much money into its coffers(and those of its sponsors that it no longer has)and that's all there is to it.
If you want to waste your time starting a new thread on the subject, I will respond and add to it.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Michael, basically "our" idea was pushed aside by what became Top Dragster and Top Sportsman. I have resigned myself to the fact that NHRA and it's Sportsman Racers do not want an "affordable" way to go racing and they don't have room for any more Eliminators. NHRA wants us to pump as much money into its coffers(and those of its sponsors that it no longer has)and that's all there is to it.
If you want to waste your time starting a new thread on the subject, I will respond and add to it.

Please do.....Id like to hear about it. Ya never know what might be on the horizon.

[RPM5595]

I'd like to hear about this new class idea also. Anything like a "Spec" head class? Door slammer hopefully.