FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines

[Bob Pagano]

Kevin and Evan, You cant say that about Shaul there were no CJs at that race for him to run. The out come would be who did not red light, we know what car would have won headsup. The old cars are only in the mix when no CJs show up and as good as the DeFrank car is he could not out run them either.

[Evan Smith]

Bob, I can say that. You proved my point: There were no CJs or Dodges because there are not that many of them racing, therefore, if they are not racing, how can they ruin the sport? You can say "what if" all you want, but the fact is that Shaul won in a '64 model year vehicle. National Dragster did not report that Shaul won because no CJs showed up. You speculate all you want, but the fact is that an old car won and they will continue to win.

[K Stubbs]

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

Kevin and Evan, You cant say that about Shaul there were no CJs at that race for him to run. The out come would be who did not red light, we know what car would have won headsup. The old cars are only in the mix when no CJs show up and as good as the DeFrank car is he could not out run them either.

Bob, you could say that at any race, its not always the fastest car in the class that wins (the eliminator) and that has nothing to do with late model CJ'S or Challengers, etc.

[Billy Nees]

Evan, ummm, I just looked at my trusty Nitro Joes and 7 08 Mustangs made runs in AA/SA this year and only 6 63, 64 Max Wedges. And seeing as you are talking about AA.

[Evan Smith]

I am talking in general terms, as it could relate to any class. My point is that regardless of how fast any one car is, or may be, Shaul won the race. That is the fact I was referring to. It is not opinion or theory, it is fact. We don't race on paper so it's not right to say this guy or that combo will always win and/or ruin a class until it happens. So far, it has not happened.

For the record, my vote was to move the triggers and leave the indexes alone.

Evan

[Bruce Noland]

Last year it was "Oh Shucky Darn them cars ain't that fast" and now it is "Oh shucky Darn there ain't that many of them out there." And next year it will be......

It's only human nature to attempt to avoid the consequences of our actions but there are times when those consequences will come back and bite ya right in the backside. And the old dog is getting close.

[Tom Moock]

Bobby DiDomenico, The difference between IHRA crate motors and NHRA new mopar and mustang is electronic`s, they can hook up there laptop computer to change a lot things, maybe they need to change back to fuel injection and carb. class`s in NHRA. Tom

[Andys dad]

I just wish the new factory cars were in some kind of FX class, racing each other (IN HEADS UP SITUATIONS) for three years until the HP factors get worked out. Kind of like the FI cars were when they first came out. They could have what ever dial in (index) and factored HP they want.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Sure, "Vintage" for the carbs .... They arent producing any cars in the US with carbs on them from the factory that I am aware of, I "think" the last one even imported was Korean (kia ?)

I was dissapointed when I first started WERA vintage with a motorcycle, but oh well, it kept the playing field level for the antiques.

The present, and the future is FI period.....a carb will never see the light of day on a mass produced street car again. That for lack of you having it or not is a stock car now, so is electronic controlled shifts.

I (and Im NOT saying you are saying this and sort of agree in principal with you) I think that an electonic fuel injected car with electronic controlled transmission represents a STOCK car now a days, the rest are quite honestly antiques, and growing more an more so with every passing year no matter how beloved they are, I saw the same thing happen in motorcycles, and there came a point where 2 strokes got nixed from a lot of classes, that was sad, so I got into "Vintage" racing where my iron was still competitive, can I run a new GSXR ? Hell no , even with the power the chassis isnt there on the old iron, it just is whats representitive of stock NOW......

My worthless 1 1/2 cents....

Originally Posted by Tom Moock

Bobby DiDomenico, The difference between IHRA crate motors and NHRA new mopar and mustang is electronic`s, they can hook up there laptop computer to change a lot things, maybe they need to change back to fuel injection and carb. class`s in NHRA. Tom

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by drooze

Sure, "Vintage" for the carbs .... They arent producing any cars in the US with carbs on them from the factory that I am aware of, I "think" the last one even imported was Korean (kia ?)

I was dissapointed when I first started WERA vintage with a motorcycle, but oh well, it kept the playing field level for the antiques.

The present, and the future is FI period.....a carb will never see the light of day on a mass produced street car again. That for lack of you having it or not is a stock car now, so is electronic controlled shifts.

I (and Im NOT saying you are saying this and sort of agree in principal with you) I think that an electonic fuel injected car with electronic controlled transmission represents a STOCK car now a days, the rest are quite honestly antiques, and growing more an more so with every passing year no matter how beloved they are, I saw the same thing happen in motorcycles, and there came a point where 2 strokes got nixed from a lot of classes, that was sad, so I got into "Vintage" racing where my iron was still competitive, can I run a new GSXR ? Hell no , even with the power the chassis isnt there on the old iron, it just is whats representitive of stock NOW......

My worthless 1 1/2 cents....

Maybe NHRA and IHRA should go back to pre electronic FI days like NASCAR rules. NOTHING newer allowed unless it has a carb, and no computer like the early SS/GT cars....lol. Now this should get you fired up.