FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by drooze

Sure, "Vintage" for the carbs .... They arent producing any cars in the US with carbs on them from the factory that I am aware of, I "think" the last one even imported was Korean (kia ?)

I was dissapointed when I first started WERA vintage with a motorcycle, but oh well, it kept the playing field level for the antiques.

The present, and the future is FI period.....a carb will never see the light of day on a mass produced street car again. That for lack of you having it or not is a stock car now, so is electronic controlled shifts.

I (and Im NOT saying you are saying this and sort of agree in principal with you) I think that an electonic fuel injected car with electronic controlled transmission represents a STOCK car now a days, the rest are quite honestly antiques, and growing more an more so with every passing year no matter how beloved they are, I saw the same thing happen in motorcycles, and there came a point where 2 strokes got nixed from a lot of classes, that was sad, so I got into "Vintage" racing where my iron was still competitive, can I run a new GSXR ? Hell no , even with the power the chassis isnt there on the old iron, it just is whats representitive of stock NOW......

My worthless 1 1/2 cents....

Maybe NHRA and IHRA should go back to pre electronic FI days like NASCAR rules. NOTHING newer allowed unless it has a carb, and no computer like the early SS/GT cars....lol. Now this should get you fired up.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

It dosent get me fired up, and if there is a draw for a class like that for the spectators and the racers then maybe it makes sense, but its not STOCK.

I think its kinda funny that the many of the cars running competitive stock out there are as old as I am, there are obvious reasons, the "muscle car era" the factory package cars from days gone by etc.

Its really been a HUGE gap that has taken Detroit 35 friggin years to catch up, EPA, Customer Demand, etc....I mean when was the last 425 crank HP Dodge out there like the SRT8 ? Or Camaro, or Mustang, 1970 ?

But now those DO represent stock cars....

I believe there is a slot for everyone in racing , it dosent mean its the class they think they should be in.....

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Maybe NHRA and IHRA should go back to pre electronic FI days like NASCAR rules. NOTHING newer allowed unless it has a carb, and no computer like the early SS/GT cars....lol. Now this should get you fired up.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by drooze

It dosent get me fired up, and if there is a draw for a class like that for the spectators and the racers then maybe it makes sense, but its not STOCK.

I case you havent looked lately but STOCK isnt STOCK anyway. Just look at the new Dodge Challengers, Ford Mustangs BOTH without EPA certification and ya cant tag and register them for the street. Stock hasnt been STOCK eliminator for years. Neither is Super Stock a S/S catagory anymore. Its more like Pro Stock of the early 70's. Maybe NHRA should just change the names of the eliminators to Super Pro and Pro?

[ALMACK]

I have been reading this thread with interest.

Can anyone update me on the latest on Ford's 352 (8.2 based) and 428 (351W based) engines as the OP was referring to ? Have they been run in competition yet ?

[Gary Parker]

Stock isn't stock. I am sorry but I have a stock carb,intake head castings, wheelbase,hood(with no scoop) trunk,doors rotating assembly that is the same as it was in 1975, (except we get after market parts to keep from braking parts) . Stock front seats,I even have a stock driveshaft. They sold my car at the dealer, and it has taken years to make it run like it does. As for those who can only make underfactored cars run under the index, so be it. I am proud off what I have done to make my car run fast.

[Greg Barsamian]

Originally Posted by Gary Parker

Stock isn't stock. I am sorry but I have a stock carb,intake head castings, wheelbase,hood(with no scoop) trunk,doors rotating assembly that is the same as it was in 1975, (except we get after market parts to keep from braking parts) . Stock front seats,I even have a stock driveshaft. They sold my car at the dealer, and it has taken years to make it run like it does. As for those who can only make underfactored cars run under the index, so be it. I am proud off what I have done to make my car run fast.

Amen! You should be proud of what you've done!

Greg

[Ed Wright]

Since they were actually sold at the GM dealers for street use, EPA certs and all, and the minimum production run no longer exists, maybe they will let the '97 SLP LT4 Pontiac Firehawks run SS. Just wishing.