AHRA classes

Chris1529 · 12-19-2009, 10:45 PM

If anyone thinks IHRA has alot of classes, take a look at the AHRA class rules portion of their website.

http://www.ahradragracing.com/RULES.html

Chris "drooze" Wertman · 12-20-2009, 12:06 AM

Wow, if those are the complete rules, they are like swiss cheese from a technical perspective, I havent seen the IHRA rules, never cared to, but wow....I know its just a starting point, but like I said I could drive my truck through those rules. (for Stock)

What it looks like is they copied, reworded and trimmed down the NHRA rules, almost verbatim (Maybe the IHRA rules read this similar) but I have read the Stock NHRA rules almost every day for 3 months looking for an advantage. The AHRA rules read like cliff notes, the funny thing is some things they ommited have big implications.

Itll be interesting if nothing else

And interesting is always fun ....

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Originally Posted by Chris1529

If anyone thinks IHRA has alot of classes, take a look at the AHRA class rules portion of their website.

http://www.ahradragracing.com/RULES.html

Myron Piatek · 12-20-2009, 09:27 AM

You all missed some of the IHRA Crate Motor Stock variations (but no actual CM combos) that AHRA included, like 10.5" tires, minor inboard spring relocation and kick-outs in the oil pan sump area. But I'm surprised that they mandate OEM fuel tanks!

Chris1529 · 12-20-2009, 09:33 AM

I would think the stock fuel tank rule will have to go. I doubt that there are that many cars out there stil running a stock fuel tank.

Bob Gullett · 12-20-2009, 10:00 AM

It also states full street equipment. It only says wiper arms and blades can be removed. It also says in super stock that OEM front seats must be used.

Paul Merolla · 12-20-2009, 10:44 AM

I liked this page the best....

http://www.ahradragracing.com/MODIFI...ION_CLASS.html

I really hope this sanction takes off in a big way.

chris3racing · 12-20-2009, 11:15 AM

These rule look like the old AHRA rule, before there was an IHRA. I am looking at and old AHRA rule book, remember when Rockingham was AHRA, and these rule look similar. "Modified Production, I'm in.

Ed Wright · 12-23-2009, 05:36 PM

If nobody will run IHRA, do you guys think anybody will actually show up for AHRA?
It was one hill-billy deal in it's day. Think it will be better this time around?

Adger Smith · 12-23-2009, 07:56 PM

I posted something similar on the Comp forum:
I like the idea of giving AHRA a chance to "Make It", even if all they have for us is bracket racing. It is hard to predict the way things will be in the future. Who knows how long NHRA sportsman racing will remain with us. You can't tell, AHRA might be willing to change some of their formats if they get good support. I have always thought that if more of the Comp racers had crossed over to Modified (used their # 2 or spares to race) we might still have it. With a large car count & a lot of support we could have lobbied IHRA for more of a Comp format. We all know that didn't happen. We might be able to forge a good relationship with AHRA because Sportsman racing "IS" a good show. Can't tell, this might be a smarter bunch of "Hillbillies". :~) We can start by either being negative or positive about AHRA. The choice is ours.
Adger Smith (+)

Bret Kepner · 12-23-2009, 08:15 PM

The younger guys have no idea how extensive the original AHRA class structure actually was. I can tell you that, at the final event in 1984, the AHRA rulebook had 672 classes. I know this because I still have 672 AHRA class records rotting in my brain.

I, too, was surprised at the wording in many of the regulations on their site. Bear in mind, however, there still are no Hot Rod, Optional, Van or Dune Buggy divisons. Likewise, the Formula concept, (used in both Super Stock and Hot Rod), has been abandoned...or nobody with the new group remembered it to begin with. LOL!

Before anybody gets on my case, one of my favorite AHRA classes ever was A/Van Optional and, if you never saw a F4A/HR machine leave the line, you really missed something.

12-19-2009, 10:45 PM	#1
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	AHRA classes If anyone thinks IHRA has alot of classes, take a look at the AHRA class rules portion of their website. http://www.ahradragracing.com/RULES.html __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

12-20-2009, 09:27 AM	#3
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,542 Likes: 34 Liked 138 Times in 51 Posts	Re: AHRA classes You all missed some of the IHRA Crate Motor Stock variations (but no actual CM combos) that AHRA included, like 10.5" tires, minor inboard spring relocation and kick-outs in the oil pan sump area. But I'm surprised that they mandate OEM fuel tanks!

12-20-2009, 09:33 AM	#4
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: AHRA classes I would think the stock fuel tank rule will have to go. I doubt that there are that many cars out there stil running a stock fuel tank. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

12-20-2009, 10:00 AM	#5
Bob Gullett VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,106 Likes: 57 Liked 501 Times in 116 Posts	Re: AHRA classes It also states full street equipment. It only says wiper arms and blades can be removed. It also says in super stock that OEM front seats must be used. __________________ 68 Chevy11 327 F/S

12-20-2009, 10:44 AM	#6
Paul Merolla Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Papillion, NE Posts: 610 Likes: 242 Liked 293 Times in 65 Posts	Re: AHRA classes I liked this page the best.... http://www.ahradragracing.com/MODIFI...ION_CLASS.html I really hope this sanction takes off in a big way.

12-20-2009, 11:15 AM	#7
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: AHRA classes These rule look like the old AHRA rule, before there was an IHRA. I am looking at and old AHRA rule book, remember when Rockingham was AHRA, and these rule look similar. "Modified Production, I'm in.

12-23-2009, 05:36 PM	#8
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: AHRA classes If nobody will run IHRA, do you guys think anybody will actually show up for AHRA? It was one hill-billy deal in it's day. Think it will be better this time around? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

12-23-2009, 07:56 PM	#9
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: AHRA classes I posted something similar on the Comp forum: I like the idea of giving AHRA a chance to "Make It", even if all they have for us is bracket racing. It is hard to predict the way things will be in the future. Who knows how long NHRA sportsman racing will remain with us. You can't tell, AHRA might be willing to change some of their formats if they get good support. I have always thought that if more of the Comp racers had crossed over to Modified (used their # 2 or spares to race) we might still have it. With a large car count & a lot of support we could have lobbied IHRA for more of a Comp format. We all know that didn't happen. We might be able to forge a good relationship with AHRA because Sportsman racing "IS" a good show. Can't tell, this might be a smarter bunch of "Hillbillies". :~) We can start by either being negative or positive about AHRA. The choice is ours. Adger Smith (+) __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

12-23-2009, 08:15 PM	#10
Bret Kepner Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, USA Posts: 418 Likes: 1 Liked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Re: AHRA classes The younger guys have no idea how extensive the original AHRA class structure actually was. I can tell you that, at the final event in 1984, the AHRA rulebook had 672 classes. I know this because I still have 672 AHRA class records rotting in my brain. I, too, was surprised at the wording in many of the regulations on their site. Bear in mind, however, there still are no Hot Rod, Optional, Van or Dune Buggy divisons. Likewise, the Formula concept, (used in both Super Stock and Hot Rod), has been abandoned...or nobody with the new group remembered it to begin with. LOL! Before anybody gets on my case, one of my favorite AHRA classes ever was A/Van Optional and, if you never saw a F4A/HR machine leave the line, you really missed something. __________________ Bret Kepner BRETKEPNER@Prodigy.net Saint Louis, Missouri, USA