Changing the indexes worked

Bryan Broaddus · 02-14-2010, 03:37 PM

Two of the last 4 are Stockers. Holroyd is running Grossi Stocker Buick and Dave Moreno's Mustang is a Stocker too. I agree with Andy's Dad that Tom Watts can run under the new index. Scott Kelley ran a front drive Toyota last year in Super Stock. The SS/BX VW is their first outing with this combo. There is also at one or two other Stocker in the last 7 cars in the field, Scarth and Sorensen.

So from my perspective the index change did not work since there are still Stockers in Super Stock. I still say they should have reduced the index by .5 seconds. It would keep Super Stock Super Stock, not a combo race!

Mark Yacavone · 02-14-2010, 04:00 PM

I'd say it worked fine, in this respect :

They sped up the cars at the top a little, and the same for a few at the bottom .
It's supposed to be a performance eliminator, right?
Every time someone brings up " No heads up in the eliminator" , 90% of the guys here jump up and down in unison , shouting " No way! I'll quit first! "
So what's the problem?

RockyJ · 02-14-2010, 04:06 PM

Att. Bryan You said someone ran a front drive car in SS. Could you pls.
tell me what class that was ? Modified maybe. I was told by a nhra teck person that you could not run a front drive stocker in SS even if it fit the weight break , any clues as to how that works.
thanks. Or if it happened before?

art leong · 02-14-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyJ

Att. Bryan You said someone ran a front drive car in SS. Could you pls.
tell me what class that was ? Modified maybe. I was told by a nhra teck person that you could not run a front drive stocker in SS even if it fit the weight break , any clues as to how that works.
thanks. Or if it happened before?

SS/GS and SS/EX both FWD classes, in superstock eliminator

SS Engine Guy · 02-14-2010, 05:45 PM

There will always be stockers in SS as long as the rules keep changing and as long as there are combos factored 20-50hp soft. Personally I could care less what the indexes are changed to. But changing the indexes won't help the factoring system (if there even is such a system) correctly factor a combination.

Bob Moulton · 02-14-2010, 06:06 PM

How come nobody brought up the that it looks like NHRA will be able to bring alot less trophy's for class wins to these race's. It takes .5 under to WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Mason · 02-14-2010, 06:46 PM

Actually, per Bruce at Pomona, a single for class must only run on or under the index. No more .50 under. Contested classes have no restrictions.

Steve Williams · 02-14-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Broaddus

Two of the last 4 are Stockers. Holroyd is running Grossi Stocker Buick and Dave Moreno's Mustang is a Stocker too. I agree with Andy's Dad that Tom Watts can run under the new index. Scott Kelley ran a front drive Toyota last year in Super Stock. The SS/BX VW is their first outing with this combo. There is also at one or two other Stocker in the last 7 cars in the field, Scarth and Sorensen.

So from my perspective the index change did not work since there are still Stockers in Super Stock. I still say they should have reduced the index by .5 seconds. It would keep Super Stock Super Stock, not a combo race!

Bryan,

You are right on with that. If you want to change to SS then you have been warned.

Michael Beard · 02-15-2010, 09:43 AM

Maybe they should've reduced the indexes by 1.00, and removed the AHFS completely. There, y'all can go as fast as you want. Everybody happy? Aww, somebody can't run the index then? Maybe they should just "quit whining and work harder".

The Country Club will end up destroying itself. Way to go.

Ed Wright · 02-15-2010, 09:49 AM

May have been better to leave the Stock indexes alone, since that is the closest division to being "entry level". It's not, of course, but is where most people start out. I can't imagine anybody thinking the SS indexes were not too soft.

Michael, like it or not NHRA is likely to be around long after IHRA is gone. I like running both, but NHRA has the well known pros which actually puts people in the stands and pays the bills.

02-14-2010, 03:37 PM	#1
Bryan Broaddus Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 104 Likes: 2 Liked 18 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Changing the indexes worked Two of the last 4 are Stockers. Holroyd is running Grossi Stocker Buick and Dave Moreno's Mustang is a Stocker too. I agree with Andy's Dad that Tom Watts can run under the new index. Scott Kelley ran a front drive Toyota last year in Super Stock. The SS/BX VW is their first outing with this combo. There is also at one or two other Stocker in the last 7 cars in the field, Scarth and Sorensen. So from my perspective the index change did not work since there are still Stockers in Super Stock. I still say they should have reduced the index by .5 seconds. It would keep Super Stock Super Stock, not a combo race! __________________ Bryan Broaddus 7568 STK ,SS

02-14-2010, 04:00 PM	#2
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,818 Likes: 2,909 Liked 5,126 Times in 1,954 Posts	Re: Changing the indexes worked I'd say it worked fine, in this respect : They sped up the cars at the top a little, and the same for a few at the bottom . It's supposed to be a performance eliminator, right? Every time someone brings up " No heads up in the eliminator" , 90% of the guys here jump up and down in unison , shouting " No way! I'll quit first! " So what's the problem? __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

02-14-2010, 04:06 PM	#3
RockyJ Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 47 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Changing the indexes worked Att. Bryan You said someone ran a front drive car in SS. Could you pls. tell me what class that was ? Modified maybe. I was told by a nhra teck person that you could not run a front drive stocker in SS even if it fit the weight break , any clues as to how that works. thanks. Or if it happened before?

02-14-2010, 05:45 PM	#5
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Changing the indexes worked There will always be stockers in SS as long as the rules keep changing and as long as there are combos factored 20-50hp soft. Personally I could care less what the indexes are changed to. But changing the indexes won't help the factoring system (if there even is such a system) correctly factor a combination.

02-14-2010, 06:06 PM	#6
Bob Moulton Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 52 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Changing the indexes worked How come nobody brought up the that it looks like NHRA will be able to bring alot less trophy's for class wins to these race's. It takes .5 under to WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-14-2010, 06:46 PM	#7
John Mason Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 147 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Changing the indexes worked Actually, per Bruce at Pomona, a single for class must only run on or under the index. No more .50 under. Contested classes have no restrictions. __________________ John Mason 7743 SS

02-15-2010, 09:43 AM	#9
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Changing the indexes worked Maybe they should've reduced the indexes by 1.00, and removed the AHFS completely. There, y'all can go as fast as you want. Everybody happy? Aww, somebody can't run the index then? Maybe they should just "quit whining and work harder". The Country Club will end up destroying itself. Way to go. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

02-15-2010, 09:49 AM	#10
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Changing the indexes worked May have been better to leave the Stock indexes alone, since that is the closest division to being "entry level". It's not, of course, but is where most people start out. I can't imagine anybody thinking the SS indexes were not too soft. Michael, like it or not NHRA is likely to be around long after IHRA is gone. I like running both, but NHRA has the well known pros which actually puts people in the stands and pays the bills. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 02-15-2010 at 10:04 AM.