new hazmat rules

[Jason Oldfield]

Originally Posted by Chris Williams

Can anyone explain why I have to pay to dispose of my oil/filter at the track and I can't leave a race with it carefully stored in my trailer, but I can walk into almost any auto parts store and just toss it in there for free?

Why is it that you can TRANSPORT IT INTO THE TRACK!?!? If you're not qualified to transport oil, you're not qualified, period. This is just a crock. Just like the oil down penalties.

Anyone want to bet that wheel tethers are next for us?!?!?

[63corvette]

As I have posted earlier I know a good deal about EPA rules and regulations as I did deal with the agencies for a number of years before retirement. I can tell you as long as you are not an incorporated business you can transport Hazardous Materials without permits or placards up to a point if it is your personal waste. An example:
Racing Gasoline is considered a Hazardous Material however, unless you transport more than 110 gallons and it is not business related (for personal use) you are not breaking any laws. (The 110 gallons relates to a weight limit in pounds in the law which I can not recall without going and looking it up but anything over the 110 gallons is over limit which requires a permit or placards or both on the transporting vehicle depending on where you are state wise and road wise)

Used Oil is not considered a Hazardous Waste unless tested and determined to be Hazardous Materials with contaminates to a level which would make it Hazardous. (usually this is metals suspended in the oil)
One drop of the chlorinated brake cleaner can make hundreds of gallons of used oil test as Hazardous Materials which I am sure has happened at the race tracks in the past which may have caused some the additional rules also.

Used Oil filters are handled differently in every state.
Some states require all used oil filters to be squeezed and then disposed of.
Others require them to be shredded then incinerated in an approved manner.
Still other states will allow you to dispose of them in a landfill.
In the case of NHRA it is all about the money along with complying with the laws.
There is a buck to be made along the way and NHRA wants their cut. That is what this is all about.
Just My 2 Cents

[Chris Williams]

To be fair wrt NHRA, some of the tracks I've been to have looked two inches short of a superfund site... We all should be careful and conscious about not dumping stuff on the ground, and cleaning up when we do, and the like. I know I am.

But I'm sure there are a boatload of a-holes who just dump stuff on the ground and say "whatever", who save stuff up at home and take it to the track to dump it in the can, and so on. These same guys also don't listen to notices, announcements, and reason -- they only seem to listen to rules and fines. Well, they got it...

[EricArrow]

Originally Posted by Chris Williams

To be fair wrt NHRA, some of the tracks I've been to have looked two inches short of a superfund site... We all should be careful and conscious about not dumping stuff on the ground, and cleaning up when we do, and the like. I know I am.

But I'm sure there are a boatload of a-holes who just dump stuff on the ground and say "whatever", who save stuff up at home and take it to the track to dump it in the can, and so on. These same guys also don't listen to notices, announcements, and reason -- they only seem to listen to rules and fines. Well, they got it...

I agree....I don't see an issue with removing your oil and filter from the track with you in an approved container...Heck we all have oil drain pans and the used oil can go right back in the containers the new came out of. Maybe they should just send an official over if you want to change your oil and have them make sure when you are done that you did'nt just dump it.....impose a fine if you did'nt notify an official?..

[Joe Pinkston]

Originally Posted by EricArrow

I agree....I don't see an issue with removing your oil and filter from the track with you in an approved container...Heck we all have oil drain pans and the used oil can go right back in the containers the new came out of. Maybe they should just send an official over if you want to change your oil and have them make sure when you are done that you did'nt just dump it.....impose a fine if you did'nt notify an official?..

That is a pretty good idea except you left out one important detail, the fee you need to pay the official to supervise your oil change. I am convinced that is the bottom line reason for all of this weather it is the NHRA at the race track or the EPA on a nation wide level. Somewhere along the line, a single person or a group of people are lining their pockets from this whole deal.




Hey Dan Moore, you're #1.

RIP Mark Graham

[chebby2]

Does any other sanctioning body have these problems?

[ItsyBitsySpider]

I have a question that's been bothering me.
What if someone else dumps in your pit? What is to stop someone that doesn't like you from "framing" you for EPA infractions at a race?
I'm sure you'll all agree that 99% of the people we race with are wonderful, but then there's the 1% of psychos that will do anything to hurt someone they don't like or consider a threat.