Phoenix Nat'l Racers Please Respond

aspen7709 · 02-22-2010, 09:44 PM

this is all well and good....Dont go there,dont race, dont do this or that but when it comes to it we still go.Why? Because "cheap" charlie is the only national/divisional game in town.Yes we get tucson but it is only a div race and not alot of people go especially spectators.We dont have IHRA and other good tracks are at least 300 miles away.Speed world is good but it is 2 hours from my house each way and it is a "local " track.It will NEVER host a national or get a divisional again.the national open had 9 cars????I am goin to the divisional, why because I need points and that is the only div I can hit close.Hell my shop is trying to get a vendor booth and we cant even get a return phone call! yeah it sucks but anybody else got a better idea???? i am all ears!

Ed Fernandez · 02-22-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aspen7709

this is all well and good....Dont go there,dont race, dont do this or that but when it comes to it we still go.Why? Because "cheap" charlie is the only national/divisional game in town.Yes we get tucson but it is only a div race and not alot of people go especially spectators.We dont have IHRA and other good tracks are at least 300 miles away.Speed world is good but it is 2 hours from my house each way and it is a "local " track.It will NEVER host a national or get a divisional again.the national open had 9 cars????I am goin to the divisional, why because I need points and that is the only div I can hit close.Hell my shop is trying to get a vendor booth and we cant even get a return phone call! yeah it sucks but anybody else got a better idea???? i am all ears!

So having a good chance of you or someone in the other lane smacking you because you say the owner doesn't give two $hits doesn't deter you from going there?
I'd like to see how long it would take you to dial Dirt bag & Dirt bag Esq. to setup a law suit,if you survive.
We had a situation at Atco a few years ago where the winds were brutal.I don't know for sure who was the lead motivator,NHRA,Joe Sway or the racers,but elims were
postponed to Mon after I believe trying 1/8 mile.I heard some guys bitching and moaning.
Their decision to wait was fine with me.I guess by human nature there will always be those who can't be satisfied.
Some track owners and racing orgs. depend on people who think like you to keep up with their schemes to stay in business..

aspen7709 · 02-22-2010, 11:46 PM

You still did not give me a solution other than stay home. Ed I can drive across your state quicker than I can get to either alternative track. Yes firebird is a toilet but it is still safer than a public highway.I choose to race stock because I like it same as you. They only race it at firebird. it is not like drinkin beer if you dont like the bar you can go home and drink but I cant race in my driveway! THE WEST NEEDS IHRA!!!!!

Ed Fernandez · 02-22-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aspen7709

You still did not give me a solution other than stay home. Ed I can drive across your state quicker than I can get to either alternative track. Yes firebird is a toilet but it is still safer than a public highway.I choose to race stock because I like it same as you. They only race it at firebird. it is not like drinkin beer if you dont like the bar you can go home and drink but I cant race in my driveway! THE WEST NEEDS IHRA!!!!!

I agree with you 100%,but why would you put yourself in peril for one race?I'm sure you go to other races in your division.If it was me I'd find a way to attend another race or
just race one less race for the year.
There's plenty of races but you only have one life.
Is the owner that bad?It's Charlie Allen isn't it?Pressure on NHRA for him to improve safety or lose the race seems like the solution.Maybe it's time for an insurrection in your division by those affected by his inaction to make improvements.

buzzinhalfdozen · 02-23-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by aspen7709

You still did not give me a solution other than stay home. Ed I can drive across your state quicker than I can get to either alternative track. Yes firebird is a toilet but it is still safer than a public highway.I choose to race stock because I like it same as you. They only race it at firebird. it is not like drinkin beer if you dont like the bar you can go home and drink but I cant race in my driveway! THE WEST NEEDS IHRA!!!!!

If all you're after is the point, pay go thru tech and leave.No sense bending up your stuff, not the best plan but one solution. Joe

Bryan Worner · 02-23-2010, 10:31 AM

Aspen, some of the Interstates here in PA would make a better racing surface than Phoenix!!! Someone needs to suggest the owner spend some of his money and repave the racing surface to make it safe!

Ed, the problem there is the track, not the weather! And if they were trying to use their new, cheaper, traction compound in cool weather, we all know what a disaster that can be!

Mike Graham · 02-23-2010, 10:39 AM

The track was fine when it wasn't covered in water. Can't blame that on NHRA

davidhuff · 02-23-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Graham

The track was fine when it wasn't covered in water. Can't blame that on NHRA

You must be kidding and give me a break,there was no rain ever at the track on Friday when Gordie Rivera wrecked his new pro stocker.The rain started on Saturday and I should know because I was there.

02-22-2010, 09:44 PM	#1
aspen7709 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: sunny,az Posts: 165 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Phoenix Nat'l Racers Please Respond this is all well and good....Dont go there,dont race, dont do this or that but when it comes to it we still go.Why? Because "cheap" charlie is the only national/divisional game in town.Yes we get tucson but it is only a div race and not alot of people go especially spectators.We dont have IHRA and other good tracks are at least 300 miles away.Speed world is good but it is 2 hours from my house each way and it is a "local " track.It will NEVER host a national or get a divisional again.the national open had 9 cars????I am goin to the divisional, why because I need points and that is the only div I can hit close.Hell my shop is trying to get a vendor booth and we cant even get a return phone call! yeah it sucks but anybody else got a better idea???? i am all ears!

02-22-2010, 11:46 PM	#3
aspen7709 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: sunny,az Posts: 165 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Phoenix Nat'l Racers Please Respond You still did not give me a solution other than stay home. Ed I can drive across your state quicker than I can get to either alternative track. Yes firebird is a toilet but it is still safer than a public highway.I choose to race stock because I like it same as you. They only race it at firebird. it is not like drinkin beer if you dont like the bar you can go home and drink but I cant race in my driveway! THE WEST NEEDS IHRA!!!!!

02-23-2010, 10:31 AM	#6
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 825 Likes: 136 Liked 535 Times in 86 Posts	Re: Phoenix Nat'l Racers Please Respond Aspen, some of the Interstates here in PA would make a better racing surface than Phoenix!!! Someone needs to suggest the owner spend some of his money and repave the racing surface to make it safe! Ed, the problem there is the track, not the weather! And if they were trying to use their new, cheaper, traction compound in cool weather, we all know what a disaster that can be!

02-23-2010, 10:39 AM	#7
Mike Graham Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 410 Likes: 1 Liked 341 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Phoenix Nat'l Racers Please Respond The track was fine when it wasn't covered in water. Can't blame that on NHRA