Drooze

[art leong]

Originally Posted by boostedf22c

You made due with what you had back in the day, as did many others, and most weren't EFI, big difference. When I first started turbocharging cars, it was much the same as you described. However, with the technology and products of today that you can take advantage of you no longer have to guess.

You also didn't have the internet where everyone is in everyones business to see how many problems people are really having...haha. I'm sure tons of people were blowing stuff up learning.

I understand the learning curve of a new car. Believe me.

And retarded timing = Higher EGT's. Regardless of A/F

You also stated that more fuel equaled higher EGT,s On a diesel maybe But not on the turbo cars I ran
You are new here and don't know peoples backgrounds or what they run or have ran. My turbo dodges must have had some secret squirels firing the fuel injectors. Or was that EFI? I ran turbo stockers from the mid 90's till 2002 But I couldn't make them run any faster than 2 seconds under the index. I'm sure with some knowlege they should have run 5 seconds under.

PS those fuel injection firing squirels have migrated to my Neon

[art leong]

One message for all the world champion typists.
These guys have had the car to the track ONCE, They had some bad breaks. I believe before we all tell them everything they did wrong. We should allow them some time.
Dooze and his Dad can now post in the section reserved for actual racers.

[John Leichtamer Jr]

Will said Artie

Hammer

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by art leong

You also stated that more fuel equaled higher EGT,s On a diesel maybe But not on the turbo cars I ran
You are new here and don't know peoples backgrounds or what they run or have ran. My turbo dodges must have had some secret squirels firing the fuel injectors. Or was that EFI? I ran turbo stockers from the mid 90's till 2002 But I couldn't make them run any faster than 2 seconds under the index. I'm sure with some knowlege they should have run 5 seconds under.

PS those fuel injection firing squirels have migrated to my Neon

I said most weren't EFI. You are taking everything I'm saying out of context. Same with the EGT comment. My point was if you have retarded timing, your EGT's are higher since the fuel is now burning in the pipe and not the combustion chamber. You should know this. But since I've only been on Class Racer for a couple months, maybe I don't have enough knowledge, or clueless of the topic on hand, nor am a real racer...haha.

As far as the world champion typist award, that goes to Drooze.

And Art, if you have followed all of the stuff that Drooze has said up to this day, you wouldn't be a fan. Perform, then talk. Nothing is expected of a new car when the expectations aren't set by the owner to break records.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by boostedf22c

I'm glad to hear that you know what the perfect and magic numbers are. That paired with all the secret squirrel stuff has proved to be a killer combination.

I think there are about 20 other people running / building this engine that will tell you exactly what the total timing should be, Hemidup, Staton, Mopar, Irv, Doug Duell, Leo Meany and Big Stuff and on and on.....

So........thanks were glad we know it to.

You have obviously never built one of these engines, I did NOT do the bottom end on these 2 , simple time didnt allow and well, they were supposed to be good as it.

Glad somehow YOU can cast doubdts, its apparent only you can know something about something you know nothing about.

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by drooze

Glad somehow YOU can cast doubdts, its apparent only you can know something about something you know nothing about.

I'm not casting doubts. I asked a few questions and find some of your decisions pretty foolish. Just my opinion from my experiences. I find it ironic that you can tell anyone that they know "nothing about it"

Short of a bunch of **** talking, you have proven nothing about your knowledge, driving, tuning, etc.

Like I said, you should of just went out, sorted your bugs out and got it running well. But instead you insulted, bragged, and talked **** about how you were going to perform pre Gainesville, which is next week by the way.

[Jim Wahl]

boostedf22c, you are embarassing yourself more with every post. Art has never met a racer he didn't like. You are making a huge mistake trying to make him a bad guy! Before you try to make *me* a bad guy let me tell you I ran FWD Stockers for 20 years and one of Art's turbo Dodge's for 5 years. Chris (Drooze) may not have gone about this the way you believe he should have however we here like him and I personally think he is a colorful character. Please enlighten us of *your* accomplishments. Jim

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

boostedf22c, you are embarassing yourself more with every post. Art has never met a racer he didn't like. You are making a huge mistake trying to make him a bad guy! Before you try to make *me* a bad guy let me tell you I ran FWD Stockers for 20 years and one of Art's turbo Dodge's for 5 years. Chris (Drooze) may not have gone about this the way you believe he should however we here like him and I personally thinke he is a colorful character. Please enlighten us of *your* accomplishments. Jim

I never even said a word to Art, until he was questioning me. I don't know how i am trying to make him look like a bad guy, nor why you would think I'm going to make you look like a bad guy?

Embarrassing myself? With what, facts?

[Jim Wahl]

All I am saying is you come off as confrontational and you seem hell bent to show us that you know much about everything. I've seen this many times here, slow down, gain our trust, then start slamming Drooze. Jim

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

All I am saying is you come off as confrontational and you seem hell bent to show us that you know much about everything. I've seen this many times here, slow down, gain our trust, then start slamming Drooze. Jim

And all I was saying from the get go was that if you have datalogging capabilities, use them. It's not smart to be making passes in a brand new car without getting data, that's just a fact. Yes, people have done it in the past, and now, but it's not good practice. You can save a lot of money with data these days. Find problems before they turn into larger ones, etc.

I'm not here to prove what I have accomplished and what my knowledge is, I'm just here to slam on Drooze.