Update From Phoenix - Page 6

Ed Fernandez · 03-03-2010, 11:31 AM

Well there's the answer.It seems all the glue in the world wouldn't hold that track together.
If the asphalt is that bad somebodies *** should be in a sling for allowing a national and divisional race to be held there.Actually anything other than a Jr dragster race shouldn't be allowed to be conducted.NHRA should pull the sanction,if they had the balls to do so.
Too bad anyone,racers and fans,have to endure the brunt of the incompetence of both
the track management and the organization.
Is it so hard for NHRA to have each track inspected at the end of the race season and have the management make the appropriate repairs to provide a safe environment.

Toby Lang · 03-03-2010, 01:29 PM

It looks like they delivered the Trackbite for oval racing instead of the one for drag racing, although nobody from NHRA will come out and say it. I never read the press release on the NHRA site because I figured it said the same thing that was on DRC, but it says:

"According to officials, the manufacturer of the traction compound had supplied a pallet of products that contained a compound that was not suitable for drag racing purposes."

Contrary to what has been posted here PJ1 (VHT) sells three types of Trackbite, one for consumers and two for comercial use in 55 gallon drums:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHT_TrackBite

I couldn't find the website that Bob Mulry was talking about. All I found was this site:

http://pj1.com and the only link to VHT is: http://www.vhtpaint.com

Mike Rice has also made a post at DRR on the subject:

http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...1423#980101423

It's a very unfortunate deal, but it is what it is.

-Toby

Ed Fernandez · 03-03-2010, 03:13 PM

Like I posted above what's the difference what they sprayed.Emmett M. said the asphalt
is beginning to break down.All the traction compound in the world wont help.

Toby Lang · 03-03-2010, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Like I posted above what's the difference what they sprayed.Emmett M. said the asphalt
is beginning to break down.All the traction compound in the world wont help.

Well, as far as I know, they didn't have any problems like this last year. By all accounts the blacktop surface is in sad shape, but has the track deteriorated that much from last year?

-Toby

davidhuff · 03-03-2010, 03:37 PM

I lived in phoenix for 10 years and was on vacation and went to both races.There has not been any money spent on the track and pits in years.Even the pro pits are a S**T HOLE.I paid 100% of my money and saw 50% of a race and this will never happen again.

jmcarter · 03-04-2010, 11:53 AM

NHRA indicated an announcement was forthcoming this week...per their release "...Firebird Int’l Raceway have been postponed. An announcement will be made next week concerning new date or dates and venue or venues for completion of the activities."

Anybody heard anything about when and where it may be held?

RACER1530 · 03-10-2010, 09:18 PM

http://dragraceresults.com/article.cfm?id=3467&type=2

a statement from vp

CycloneFE · 03-10-2010, 09:27 PM

http://www.competitionplus.com/index...ned-in-phoenix

Michael Beard · 03-11-2010, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

It looks like they delivered the Trackbite for oval racing instead of the one for drag racing,

While I can understand one being 'better' than the other, isn't it reasonable to assume that "Trackbite for oval racing" is still sticky?

W J · 03-11-2010, 11:12 AM

Does anyone know exactly when Firebird last had a re-pave job? Thought a few posts back was mentioned that the asphalt is all cracking/coming apart in many areas of the race surface...plus the large dip that's in the left lane after 1000' mark...How can they blame this on traction compound? Track temperatures must be almost asphalt-melting out there during the hot season. WJ

03-03-2010, 11:31 AM	#51
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Update From Phoenix Well there's the answer.It seems all the glue in the world wouldn't hold that track together. If the asphalt is that bad somebodies *** should be in a sling for allowing a national and divisional race to be held there.Actually anything other than a Jr dragster race shouldn't be allowed to be conducted.NHRA should pull the sanction,if they had the balls to do so. Too bad anyone,racers and fans,have to endure the brunt of the incompetence of both the track management and the organization. Is it so hard for NHRA to have each track inspected at the end of the race season and have the management make the appropriate repairs to provide a safe environment. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

03-03-2010, 01:29 PM	#52
Toby Lang VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 2,133 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Update From Phoenix It looks like they delivered the Trackbite for oval racing instead of the one for drag racing, although nobody from NHRA will come out and say it. I never read the press release on the NHRA site because I figured it said the same thing that was on DRC, but it says: "According to officials, the manufacturer of the traction compound had supplied a pallet of products that contained a compound that was not suitable for drag racing purposes." Contrary to what has been posted here PJ1 (VHT) sells three types of Trackbite, one for consumers and two for comercial use in 55 gallon drums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHT_TrackBite I couldn't find the website that Bob Mulry was talking about. All I found was this site: http://pj1.com and the only link to VHT is: http://www.vhtpaint.com Mike Rice has also made a post at DRR on the subject: http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...1423#980101423 It's a very unfortunate deal, but it is what it is. -Toby Last edited by Toby Lang; 03-03-2010 at 02:20 PM.

03-03-2010, 03:13 PM	#53
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Update From Phoenix Like I posted above what's the difference what they sprayed.Emmett M. said the asphalt is beginning to break down.All the traction compound in the world wont help. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

03-03-2010, 03:37 PM	#55
davidhuff Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 928 Likes: 1 Liked 120 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Update From Phoenix I lived in phoenix for 10 years and was on vacation and went to both races.There has not been any money spent on the track and pits in years.Even the pro pits are a S**T HOLE.I paid 100% of my money and saw 50% of a race and this will never happen again.

03-04-2010, 11:53 AM	#56
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,295 Likes: 2,382 Liked 3,177 Times in 971 Posts	Re: Update From Phoenix NHRA indicated an announcement was forthcoming this week...per their release "...Firebird Int’l Raceway have been postponed. An announcement will be made next week concerning new date or dates and venue or venues for completion of the activities." Anybody heard anything about when and where it may be held? __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

03-10-2010, 09:18 PM	#57
RACER1530 Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Jersey Posts: 161 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update From Phoenix http://dragraceresults.com/article.cfm?id=3467&type=2 a statement from vp __________________ Fordyce Motorsports SC 1538 / SC 153R

03-10-2010, 09:27 PM	#58
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Update From Phoenix http://www.competitionplus.com/index...ned-in-phoenix

03-11-2010, 11:12 AM	#60
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update From Phoenix Does anyone know exactly when Firebird last had a re-pave job? Thought a few posts back was mentioned that the asphalt is all cracking/coming apart in many areas of the race surface...plus the large dip that's in the left lane after 1000' mark...How can they blame this on traction compound? Track temperatures must be almost asphalt-melting out there during the hot season. WJ