Calvert?

4284spd · 03-27-2010, 05:44 PM

He is not on the final qualifying sheet in stock at the Div.7 race in Tucson.

JRyan · 03-27-2010, 05:57 PM

He's at the bottom of the list on the Final list on DRC.

Jerry

Bob Pagano · 03-27-2010, 06:04 PM

Two cars, son made grade point in stock with T-bolt then John switched it to SS, I think he set the SS/G record and did not want to put it back together at the track.

4284spd · 03-27-2010, 06:10 PM

Cool, Thanks.

Stewart Way · 03-27-2010, 06:51 PM

Hmmmm

mannymen · 03-27-2010, 08:09 PM

Bob Pagano I have a couple of questions that I hope u can answer. If not I'll call John on Monday or Tuesday.

1st: Are you saying they entered the fairlane in stock with his son as the driver and received his grade point after teching in and not making a pass and then they switched the Fairlane to Super Stock?

2nd question: How do they let you transfer a single car from Stock that they just received a grade point for into Super Stock. Did John have to pay a second entry or did they let them transfer it with the same tech card?

Just curious as I will be at my first divisional in super stock next month and was wondering if I can switch my tech card to Super Street if for some odd reason they don't pass me in tech as a Super Stock entry.

John Kelley · 03-27-2010, 09:27 PM

Maybe the T-Bolt in stock and the old car in SS/G ?
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPh...er=30#indextop

Dave Turner · 03-27-2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Kelley

Maybe the T-Bolt in stock and the old car in SS/G ?
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPh...er=30#indextop

I would think the circled "R" tells the story quite well?

Larry Hill · 03-28-2010, 07:48 AM

I wonder why the DQ. on the T-Bolt ?

Stewart Way · 03-28-2010, 02:33 PM

Now that John is out and as an old tech guy I have to ask, how was this ever allowed? Not that it really matters other than several rules were broken when this change was allowed. A-A replacement vehicle change plus a driver change is NOT permitted.. B-Replacement vehicle cannot have been utilized by any other contestant at the same event. C-Driver must stay within original eliminator category and class entered.
Its also stated the "spirit" of allowing changes is for "unforeseen circumstances...I.E., medical problem,personal tragedy,etc.". Don't see how setting a record and not wanting to put the car back together fits.
I posted this last night but deleted it not wanting to have someone at the race read it and complain and get John bounced. I know the changes really didn't cause any problems other than changing the SS ladder since one more car was added assuming John did not get the stang back together. But why devote a page in the rulebook (2.3-2.4) spelling out driver/vehicle changes if they are not followed.

03-27-2010, 05:44 PM	#1
4284spd VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Longmont Colorado Posts: 1,709 Likes: 848 Liked 4,139 Times in 950 Posts	Calvert? He is not on the final qualifying sheet in stock at the Div.7 race in Tucson. __________________ Bob Smith

03-27-2010, 05:57 PM	#2
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Calvert? He's at the bottom of the list on the Final list on DRC. Jerry

03-27-2010, 06:04 PM	#3
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 240 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Calvert? Two cars, son made grade point in stock with T-bolt then John switched it to SS, I think he set the SS/G record and did not want to put it back together at the track. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

03-27-2010, 06:10 PM	#4
4284spd VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Longmont Colorado Posts: 1,709 Likes: 848 Liked 4,139 Times in 950 Posts	Re: Calvert? Cool, Thanks. __________________ Bob Smith

03-27-2010, 06:51 PM	#5
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 20 Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Calvert? Hmmmm Last edited by Stewart Way; 03-27-2010 at 07:05 PM. Reason: Never mind

03-27-2010, 08:09 PM	#6
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Calvert? Bob Pagano I have a couple of questions that I hope u can answer. If not I'll call John on Monday or Tuesday. 1st: Are you saying they entered the fairlane in stock with his son as the driver and received his grade point after teching in and not making a pass and then they switched the Fairlane to Super Stock? 2nd question: How do they let you transfer a single car from Stock that they just received a grade point for into Super Stock. Did John have to pay a second entry or did they let them transfer it with the same tech card? Just curious as I will be at my first divisional in super stock next month and was wondering if I can switch my tech card to Super Street if for some odd reason they don't pass me in tech as a Super Stock entry. __________________ N/A

03-27-2010, 09:27 PM	#7
John Kelley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tightwad,TEXAS Posts: 911 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Calvert? Maybe the T-Bolt in stock and the old car in SS/G ? http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPh...er=30#indextop

03-28-2010, 07:48 AM	#9
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,633 Likes: 1,928 Liked 10,687 Times in 2,225 Posts	Re: Calvert? I wonder why the DQ. on the T-Bolt ? __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

03-28-2010, 02:33 PM	#10
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 20 Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Calvert? Now that John is out and as an old tech guy I have to ask, how was this ever allowed? Not that it really matters other than several rules were broken when this change was allowed. A-A replacement vehicle change plus a driver change is NOT permitted.. B-Replacement vehicle cannot have been utilized by any other contestant at the same event. C-Driver must stay within original eliminator category and class entered. Its also stated the "spirit" of allowing changes is for "unforeseen circumstances...I.E., medical problem,personal tragedy,etc.". Don't see how setting a record and not wanting to put the car back together fits. I posted this last night but deleted it not wanting to have someone at the race read it and complain and get John bounced. I know the changes really didn't cause any problems other than changing the SS ladder since one more car was added assuming John did not get the stang back together. But why devote a page in the rulebook (2.3-2.4) spelling out driver/vehicle changes if they are not followed.