Yet another bogu horsepower factor

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Stock is a performance class that has a horsepower to weight factor. The idea that the manufacturers can corrupt the process by giving these new cars such bogus ratings is something we all should care about. NHRA is deeply involved in this corrupt practice and without their involvement it would not be possible. If we don't stand up to this corrupt process we get what we deserve. I hear a lot of people say " What can we do? They are here and their is nothing we can do about it." I'll tell you what you can do. Don't support NHRA at National events. A few races with just new Challengers and Mustangs might get some action. Don't forget when the fuel injected GM cars came out, it took all of us letting NHRA know how unfair the hp ratings were before they reluctantly made the fuel injected classes. After more than 10 years those cars are properly factored and they are no faster than a lot of combinations. Do you all really want to race these under factored cars for 10 plus years before the factors are fair.

Also don't forget the muffler deal. You all do remember that don't you? We were going to be required to all run mufflers. I remember Gale Pinkston telling Danny Gracias that if we had to run mufflers he would just quit. Stand up and be counted. Don't let them get away with this.

Greg,
In ALL honesty,don't you think that the horsepower rating on your combo is "favorable"?
I know for a fact that you have been at least a half second faster than me or my mom numerous times.
I know you probably feel that you "work harder on your stuff and deserve it"
Thats fine,but what about something like a E/SA Chevrolet Powerglide Camaro.Don't know the ratings,but I know you seem to have them by at least a few tenths too.

The real point is that horsepower ratings will NEVER be fair.

I like racing a 1970 442 Oldsmobile,but IF the numbers ever come out right on the lottery,I will be getting a new Mustang or a Challenger for Stock Eliminator.There is a huge advantage to having the faster car in heads up races.

It is NOT all bracket racing as some seem to think it is.

You won the Division 3 Championship a few years ago,and having the fastest E/SA car was part of the reason.

(Might want to change your signature line,not #31 anymore)

As far as not running any National events,I don't know what that will accomplish,but I'm glad I don't have to worry about running you at National events,although I'm sure we will meet a few times at some Divisional races.
Just my $4.42,but I think you are making too much of all of these bogus horsepower ratings.There are A LOT of bogus horsepower ratings.Some are definately more bogus than others,but my feeling on Heads Up races is this:

If you are in a HEADS UP race and are slower than ONE TENTH of a second in performance,all the other driver has to accomplish is .099 on the tree,and the SLOWER CAR CAN NOT WIN!
If you are a second slower,or a tenth slower,.099 on the tree WINS the race for the faster car.Simple as that!

CLOSE doesn't count in Drag Racing!

[junior barns]

442OLDS

WOW!!

The difference is that your combo can be competitive with Greg and most current cars in your class! If you elect not to spend the time or $$$ to get there, that is your choice. The old combo's will NEVER be cometitive again with the new cars if NHRA does'nt wise up!

[james schaechter]

Daryl, be thankful Greg Hill hasn't built an Olds like yours.

Come on man. You are making claims that aren't based on research or logic.

Take a break. See you at the races. Jim

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

Greg,
In ALL honesty,don't you think that the horsepower rating on your combo is "favorable"?
I know for a fact that you have been at least a half second faster than me or my mom numerous times.
I know you probably feel that you "work harder on your stuff and deserve it"
Thats fine,but what about something like a E/SA Chevrolet Powerglide Camaro.Don't know the ratings,but I know you seem to have them by at least a few tenths too.

The real point is that horsepower ratings will NEVER be fair.

I like racing a 1970 442 Oldsmobile,but IF the numbers ever come out right on the lottery,I will be getting a new Mustang or a Challenger for Stock Eliminator.There is a huge advantage to having the faster car in heads up races.

It is NOT all bracket racing as some seem to think it is.

You won the Division 3 Championship a few years ago,and having the fastest E/SA car was part of the reason.

(Might want to change your signature line,not #31 anymore)

As far as not running any National events,I don't know what that will accomplish,but I'm glad I don't have to worry about running you at National events,although I'm sure we will meet a few times at some Divisional races.
Just my $4.42,but I think you are making too much of all of these bogus horsepower ratings.There are A LOT of bogus horsepower ratings.Some are definately more bogus than others,but my feeling on Heads Up races is this:

If you are in a HEADS UP race and are slower than ONE TENTH of a second in performance,all the other driver has to accomplish is .099 on the tree,and the SLOWER CAR CAN NOT WIN!
If you are a second slower,or a tenth slower,.099 on the tree WINS the race for the faster car.Simple as that!

CLOSE doesn't count in Drag Racing!