what is wrong with the national events

jim1761 · 03-30-2010, 11:21 AM

I have been trying to talk Kevin Sway into this but I am wondering how many people out there would be interested? Have a .90 Gamblers weekend (Similiar to the Mitchell races)
3 races- fri,sat, sun run the .90 classes with Top Sportsman and Dragster....No dealing with NHRA or sticker money.... cash at the end of the day

GaryGoFast · 03-30-2010, 11:35 AM

This is a link to Tommy De's pass, I'll try to upload more.

Bob Verwold · 03-30-2010, 12:07 PM

Don't know if it's me or the angle of the camera but looks like a narrow grove and he was a little to the right ??

GaryGoFast · 03-30-2010, 12:18 PM

Bob there was no groove, 3 inches left or right your on ice.

GaryGoFast · 03-30-2010, 12:34 PM

Rd 1 Cohen Vs Gilespie S/G

Bryan getting out of groove

Bob Verwold · 03-30-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryGoFast

Bob there was no groove, 3 inches left or right your on ice.

Well with half the Street and Gas guys not getting down the track ya think they would have tried something else......guess it was like that for time runs?

BOB SCHMIDT · 03-30-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Verwold

Don't know if it's me or the angle of the camera but looks like a narrow grove and he was a little to the right ??

It was a narrow grove, but the right lane was really trash ( really slick about half way down ). I thought it sucked that nobody would help you into the water box. I got sideways coming out of the box on every run. Also my car would not steer going to staging from the box while on the brakes. I think it being slick coming to the starting line was part of why I deep staged in the second round.

Bob Verwold · 03-30-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BOB SCHMIDT

It was a narrow grove, but the right lane was really trash ( really slick about half way down ). I thought it sucked that nobody would help you into the water box. I got sideways coming out of the box on every run. Also my car would not steer going to staging from the box while on the brakes. I think it being slick coming to the starting line was part of why I deep staged in the second round.

I was going to call ya to find out what happened but I thought I'd wait and talk to ya at Indy (give ya a chance to cool off). With your light, I figured something went wrong!!
Seems that the Nationals aren't geared for the sportsman racers anymore...

luckydog · 03-30-2010, 04:42 PM

Well, I'm just goin to second and third everything that was said to this point. What a mistake and waist of time and money. My hit Thursday morning ,in the left lane, was the only decent one of the weekend. Friday morning I experienced what must have been tire shake at 800', and as most of you know, my car is a 3200 lb. turd compared to most of SST cars. It has never done anything like that, nor will it probably ever again. First round, as we're headed down the track, I decide I've pretty much had a azz handed to me (which I did) and dump my guy. The back tires locked instantly, and I slid for probably a solid second. Believe me when I say that I did not brake excessively (at least not for other tracks). When watching the NHRA drag the track around 660', I noticed that the drag was not squeeling, AT ALL! To me that don't make sense. Sounded sticky when they walked on it, but I think there is a difference in stick and traction. NHRA needs to change what they are doing, or racers need to quit supporting these events. (HA HA, yeah, I know)

I could not get over the lack of a sense of urgency, when faced with rain on Sunday. I was not watching, so unless the track was getting "worse" as it got later, I could not believe that they did not run longer Saturday night. Then I don't think they started until between 10 & 11 Sunday morning........................with rain coming....................?????????????????

How was the track Saturday night? Was anyone elses 60's slow a BUNCH?

I guess what confuses me most is why poeple wait in line to go through this crap.

Keith 944 · 03-30-2010, 07:40 PM

[QUOTE I guess what confuses me most is why poeple wait in line to go through this crap.[/QUOTE]

not me anymore, and if this happens in ihra i'll go back to brackets, street racing is safer than what happened at this event,
tommy d, sorry did not get to talk to you, good to see you again!

wade, i live 15 min from oc. i get a lot of seafood, your right i hope to have the stroker together for the coronet, but colleen ain't driving, would have to double my meds! p.s. you gotta try the bonfire resturant.

03-30-2010, 11:21 AM	#1
jim1761 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events I have been trying to talk Kevin Sway into this but I am wondering how many people out there would be interested? Have a .90 Gamblers weekend (Similiar to the Mitchell races) 3 races- fri,sat, sun run the .90 classes with Top Sportsman and Dragster....No dealing with NHRA or sticker money.... cash at the end of the day

03-30-2010, 11:35 AM	#2
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: what is wrong with the national events This is a link to Tommy De's pass, I'll try to upload more. __________________ Gary Federico S/St, S/G 1814

03-30-2010, 12:07 PM	#3
Bob Verwold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville Ohio Posts: 656 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events Don't know if it's me or the angle of the camera but looks like a narrow grove and he was a little to the right ??

03-30-2010, 12:18 PM	#4
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: what is wrong with the national events Bob there was no groove, 3 inches left or right your on ice. __________________ Gary Federico S/St, S/G 1814

03-30-2010, 12:34 PM	#5
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: what is wrong with the national events Rd 1 Cohen Vs Gilespie S/G Bryan getting out of groove __________________ Gary Federico S/St, S/G 1814 Last edited by GaryGoFast; 03-30-2010 at 01:11 PM.

03-30-2010, 04:42 PM	#9
luckydog Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ottawa, OH Posts: 274 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events Well, I'm just goin to second and third everything that was said to this point. What a mistake and waist of time and money. My hit Thursday morning ,in the left lane, was the only decent one of the weekend. Friday morning I experienced what must have been tire shake at 800', and as most of you know, my car is a 3200 lb. turd compared to most of SST cars. It has never done anything like that, nor will it probably ever again. First round, as we're headed down the track, I decide I've pretty much had a azz handed to me (which I did) and dump my guy. The back tires locked instantly, and I slid for probably a solid second. Believe me when I say that I did not brake excessively (at least not for other tracks). When watching the NHRA drag the track around 660', I noticed that the drag was not squeeling, AT ALL! To me that don't make sense. Sounded sticky when they walked on it, but I think there is a difference in stick and traction. NHRA needs to change what they are doing, or racers need to quit supporting these events. (HA HA, yeah, I know) I could not get over the lack of a sense of urgency, when faced with rain on Sunday. I was not watching, so unless the track was getting "worse" as it got later, I could not believe that they did not run longer Saturday night. Then I don't think they started until between 10 & 11 Sunday morning........................with rain coming....................????????????????? How was the track Saturday night? Was anyone elses 60's slow a BUNCH? I guess what confuses me most is why poeple wait in line to go through this crap. __________________ Damien Hazelton Lucky Dog Racing

03-30-2010, 07:40 PM	#10
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,195 Likes: 1,163 Liked 1,885 Times in 578 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events [QUOTE I guess what confuses me most is why poeple wait in line to go through this crap.[/QUOTE] not me anymore, and if this happens in ihra i'll go back to brackets, street racing is safer than what happened at this event, tommy d, sorry did not get to talk to you, good to see you again! wade, i live 15 min from oc. i get a lot of seafood, your right i hope to have the stroker together for the coronet, but colleen ain't driving, would have to double my meds! p.s. you gotta try the bonfire resturant. Last edited by Keith 944; 03-30-2010 at 07:43 PM.