oil retention devices - Page 3

Jim Wahl · 03-30-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Parker

What if I promise not to blow my engine up?

Me to! Me to! Now let's race. Jim

Ed Fernandez · 03-30-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by david ring

For this to be taken seriously, and I'm willing to take it as a serious promise, there have to be consequences if the promise is broken. What are the consequences that people are willing to put with if they promise not to oil the track and then they do?

Dave,the penalty is they would have to clean up the track themselves.Naked except for a NY Yankee hat.

Bryan Worner · 03-30-2010, 11:06 AM

Since it is probably being done as a money saving effort by NHRA, since they would save money on the manpower and materials needed to clean up oil downs, they should pay to have them installed on every Stock and Super Stock car!!!

I can tell you someone will have to be a real genius to make one fit properly under my cars.

Jeff Teuton · 03-30-2010, 11:28 AM

Somebody send me an email address that can post a couple pictures on this channel. I got the cure, but I don't know how to get a picture on here. jefft@southlanddodge.com

Evan Smith · 03-30-2010, 12:27 PM

I would like to see the data. How many S/SS cars oil down the track over the course of a year? If the NHRA can show us a real problem exists, then it should be considered, if not, don't institute it.

No one wants to spend money on stuff like this, or go through the trouble of fitting a new part that might be a pain in the ***, but at least take a look at the whole picture before being so negative. Most professional drivers hated the idea of the HANS at first, as it was cumbersome, however those who have used one (or a similar device), wouldn't get in a car without one now.

At least look at the data before crying foul. A rule like this could save your car and/or your life, or that of your competitor, but most of you will never blow and engine or crash so who cares, right?

Another solution would be a type of catch pan, which I believe is also legal. This would also improve aerodynamics and performance.

NewHemi · 03-30-2010, 01:14 PM

I promise never to blow up another engine....

Unless the egnine suffers some sort of unavoidable mechanical failure for which I am not personally responsible..... Like throwing a rod through the oil pan and side of the block again...it was an oil failure... not me...

Except for that I promise never to blow up another engine...

Yeah that should do it...

David
The New Hemi Guy

Chris1529 · 03-30-2010, 01:25 PM

I think this is like making all the kids in your 2nd grade class come back after lunch and write sentences all afternooon as a punishment for a couple kids that were talking too loud in the lunchroom.

mannymen · 03-30-2010, 01:58 PM

mannymen is my real name no kidding (Manny Menchaca)!!! I do use the Moroso steel motor mounts as well as a front motor plate. Al if you're ever at a D3 race stop by and say hi. You can also look at my car (3112) and diaper as long as you want. Take pictures of the diaper as I have yet to do it. I just don't want to get taken out by somebody who blows their motor spraying oil all over. It has taken me 8 long years to build this car and I don't want to take out anybody elses car either. I've already lost one rare car due to a motor letting go. If the diaper fits the way it's supposed to then there's a slim chance that it will get caught anywhere and if you have that much room that it does fall then what's the complaint about getting it to fit. If you have any questions with the diaper burning or using stock motor mounts then Dennis at DRE can answer all of your questions. The diapers have protected areas that prevent them from burning.

I'm out on this issue

Ed Fernandez · 03-30-2010, 03:22 PM

As we speak I have applied with the Obama administration to get funding for the
development of new blowout proof run flat front tires for the guys who've hit the brakes so hard that they have blown front tires and caused an accident.There have been a few of those incidents,hence the need for the new tires.
Also in the works is a new spring bumper (as in Coney Island bumping car) allowing your car to bounce harmlessly off your opponent and or side walls of the track.More to come...

GRIGGS · 03-30-2010, 04:01 PM

Mannymen is right, DRE can build a diaper or oil retention devise to fit any car. !966 chevy 2 nova with drag link through center of oil pan. Fits like a glove. Fathers car is a '72 camaro with a big block in it. Header clearance to the oil pan is very tight. DRE diaper fits great. I will admit, not many S/SS cars blow engines, but when they do it's not pretty. D2 race at Gainesville had a super stocker blow up. No diaper and hour and a half clean up. But I don't run S/SS so I don't know all of the possible combinations.
Just my 2 cents.
Mike Griggs

03-30-2010, 11:06 AM	#23
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 825 Likes: 134 Liked 526 Times in 85 Posts	Re: oil retention devices Since it is probably being done as a money saving effort by NHRA, since they would save money on the manpower and materials needed to clean up oil downs, they should pay to have them installed on every Stock and Super Stock car!!! I can tell you someone will have to be a real genius to make one fit properly under my cars.

03-30-2010, 11:28 AM	#24
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: oil retention devices Somebody send me an email address that can post a couple pictures on this channel. I got the cure, but I don't know how to get a picture on here. jefft@southlanddodge.com __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

03-30-2010, 12:27 PM	#25
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 400 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: oil retention devices I would like to see the data. How many S/SS cars oil down the track over the course of a year? If the NHRA can show us a real problem exists, then it should be considered, if not, don't institute it. No one wants to spend money on stuff like this, or go through the trouble of fitting a new part that might be a pain in the ***, but at least take a look at the whole picture before being so negative. Most professional drivers hated the idea of the HANS at first, as it was cumbersome, however those who have used one (or a similar device), wouldn't get in a car without one now. At least look at the data before crying foul. A rule like this could save your car and/or your life, or that of your competitor, but most of you will never blow and engine or crash so who cares, right? Another solution would be a type of catch pan, which I believe is also legal. This would also improve aerodynamics and performance. __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK

03-30-2010, 01:14 PM	#26
NewHemi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 472 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: oil retention devices I promise never to blow up another engine.... Unless the egnine suffers some sort of unavoidable mechanical failure for which I am not personally responsible..... Like throwing a rod through the oil pan and side of the block again...it was an oil failure... not me... Except for that I promise never to blow up another engine... Yeah that should do it... David The New Hemi Guy

03-30-2010, 01:25 PM	#27
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: oil retention devices I think this is like making all the kids in your 2nd grade class come back after lunch and write sentences all afternooon as a punishment for a couple kids that were talking too loud in the lunchroom. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

03-30-2010, 01:58 PM	#28
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: oil retention devices mannymen is my real name no kidding (Manny Menchaca)!!! I do use the Moroso steel motor mounts as well as a front motor plate. Al if you're ever at a D3 race stop by and say hi. You can also look at my car (3112) and diaper as long as you want. Take pictures of the diaper as I have yet to do it. I just don't want to get taken out by somebody who blows their motor spraying oil all over. It has taken me 8 long years to build this car and I don't want to take out anybody elses car either. I've already lost one rare car due to a motor letting go. If the diaper fits the way it's supposed to then there's a slim chance that it will get caught anywhere and if you have that much room that it does fall then what's the complaint about getting it to fit. If you have any questions with the diaper burning or using stock motor mounts then Dennis at DRE can answer all of your questions. The diapers have protected areas that prevent them from burning. I'm out on this issue __________________ N/A Last edited by mannymen; 03-30-2010 at 03:39 PM.

03-30-2010, 03:22 PM	#29
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: oil retention devices As we speak I have applied with the Obama administration to get funding for the development of new blowout proof run flat front tires for the guys who've hit the brakes so hard that they have blown front tires and caused an accident.There have been a few of those incidents,hence the need for the new tires. Also in the works is a new spring bumper (as in Coney Island bumping car) allowing your car to bounce harmlessly off your opponent and or side walls of the track.More to come... __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

03-30-2010, 04:01 PM	#30
GRIGGS Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 92 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: oil retention devices Mannymen is right, DRE can build a diaper or oil retention devise to fit any car. !966 chevy 2 nova with drag link through center of oil pan. Fits like a glove. Fathers car is a '72 camaro with a big block in it. Header clearance to the oil pan is very tight. DRE diaper fits great. I will admit, not many S/SS cars blow engines, but when they do it's not pretty. D2 race at Gainesville had a super stocker blow up. No diaper and hour and a half clean up. But I don't run S/SS so I don't know all of the possible combinations. Just my 2 cents. Mike Griggs