what is wrong with the national events

Keith 944 · 03-30-2010, 07:40 PM

[QUOTE I guess what confuses me most is why poeple wait in line to go through this crap.[/QUOTE]

not me anymore, and if this happens in ihra i'll go back to brackets, street racing is safer than what happened at this event,
tommy d, sorry did not get to talk to you, good to see you again!

wade, i live 15 min from oc. i get a lot of seafood, your right i hope to have the stroker together for the coronet, but colleen ain't driving, would have to double my meds! p.s. you gotta try the bonfire resturant.

Rich67stang · 03-30-2010, 07:47 PM

Hey Keith,

Will you be running MIR in April?

Quckrod 161
SS/EM 161

Keith 944 · 03-30-2010, 07:49 PM

yea man, i'll be there, you comming? where you been, snowbound?

Jason Oldfield · 03-31-2010, 02:12 AM

The only thing odd I noticed from the videos (besides Bryan opening his door a second before he's about to leave the line) is that on both of Bryan's runs and Tommy D's run the burnouts didn't produce hardly any smoke. Is that normal for your routines? if it is, that's fine, but I'm used to a little more smoke than the small wisp that was evident there. Is this possibly an indication of something different with the track?

It was cold as all get out. My understanding was that they didn't start running until a little later on Saturday and Sunday was because they were trying to build heat into the track. I can't say whether that is true or not though.

If nothing else, I enjoyed the commentary at the end of the video of Tommy D's run. I think it summed it up perfectly.

Tom DePascale · 03-31-2010, 06:21 AM

Jason thats normal for me with my Mickey's they had nobody in water box & no water maybe water shortage (not in NJ thats for sure)the car left fine it was after it came off stop with my mammoth horsepower it went hard right I tried to recover but after 2nd move forget it. Nice to see you @ track Jason maybe next time with your car. Keith I might go to MIR if weather is nice try IHRA cause NHRA has not been fun lately!

Bryan Gillespie · 03-31-2010, 06:38 AM

(besides Bryan opening his door a second before he's about to leave the line)
I open the door to let the smoke out of the car and close after both per stage bulbs are lite always have always will.
As for the short burnout , that is all that is needed to hook ( I like my vavle springs) as Tommy said the 60' was fine the problem was about 400' thru 800' out as seen in 2nd video of Camaro ( car moved to center line )
See ya all @ MIR

SCohen · 03-31-2010, 11:34 AM

What that video did not show was my car turning left with front tires in the air. 002 and trying to wreck my car. This was with out question the worst track I have ever been on. The NHRA did not seem to think there was a problem as usual, real smart lets use the virgin lanes at Charlotte for all the super classes. And as normal lets get the show done with no regard to there sportsman racers or there cars. Bracket racing is going to get a lot more populated by NHRA sportsman racers at the rate NHRA keeps ****ting on us.

Steve Cohen

Jason Oldfield · 03-31-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom DePascale

Jason thats normal for me with my Mickey's they had nobody in water box & no water maybe water shortage (not in NJ thats for sure)

I would have been screwed with nobody to put me in the water. Plus, my small block doesn't make "mammoth power" like all your big blocks - I may not even have been able to do a burnout!

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Originally Posted by Tom DePascale

the car left fine it was after it came off stop with my mammoth horsepower it went hard right I tried to recover but after 2nd move forget it.

Yes true. Bryan stated the same thing, so I am in full agreement. The burnouts most likely didn't have anything to do with it (not that I thought that they did, but I know a lot of guys that boil the hides, so your's and Bryan's burnouts are certainly on the short side compared to many).

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Originally Posted by Tom DePascale

Nice to see you @ track Jason maybe next time with your car.

Good to see you too Tommy. I can only hope that the next time you do see me I am with car in tow. At least you've seen my car on the way to the races - most people on ClassRacer probably don't even believe I own one.

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Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie

I open the door to let the smoke out of the car and close after both per stage bulbs are lite always have always will.

Not criticizing Bryan, just busting on you. I also open the door after every burnout to let the smoke out. I usually close the door immediately before I go into the prestage beam, but to each his own.

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Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie

As for the short burnout , that is all that is needed to hook ( I like my vavle springs) as Tommy said the 60' was fine the problem was about 400' thru 800' out as seen in 2nd video of Camaro ( car moved to center line )

Pfft. Valve springs. Who needs stinking valve springs?!?! That's why I like my stinking small block - 8,000 rpm in the burnout box. Of course, I've also been known to leave half of my small block on the starting line, but that's another story.

As for your burnout and it affecting the run - see my comments above with regard to Tommy D's burnout. Regardless, sorry all you guys got screwed...

Keith 944 · 03-31-2010, 04:41 PM

jason, my time run on friday mourning was just like tommy's etc. i do a very short burnout, M/T tires, same 60' so not there, ok after the stop came back on, 2.78 out. It was around the 1/8 th mile mark my car took a sharp left turn. and if you read some of these post again you will see many underpowered cars still could not get down the track.
i also remember seeing sportsman finals on tv (lucas oil coverage) from some race that was held over till monday, i remember a biondo and massell run in comp, aborted runs, super comp wreck, then same aborted runs in finals, super gas, (brianna sp.) and ? aborted runs, super stock same thing, even STOCK was spinning the whole way down the track, can someone refresh my memory on what race this was... HEY NHRA THERE IS A PROBLEM ! wasn't nhra founded on the basics of safety???????

03-30-2010, 07:40 PM	#1
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,196 Likes: 1,163 Liked 1,886 Times in 579 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events [QUOTE I guess what confuses me most is why poeple wait in line to go through this crap.[/QUOTE] not me anymore, and if this happens in ihra i'll go back to brackets, street racing is safer than what happened at this event, tommy d, sorry did not get to talk to you, good to see you again! wade, i live 15 min from oc. i get a lot of seafood, your right i hope to have the stroker together for the coronet, but colleen ain't driving, would have to double my meds! p.s. you gotta try the bonfire resturant. Last edited by Keith 944; 03-30-2010 at 07:43 PM.

03-30-2010, 07:47 PM	#2
Rich67stang Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, NJ Posts: 313 Likes: 3 Liked 116 Times in 27 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events Hey Keith, Will you be running MIR in April? Quckrod 161 SS/EM 161

03-30-2010, 07:49 PM	#3
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,196 Likes: 1,163 Liked 1,886 Times in 579 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events yea man, i'll be there, you comming? where you been, snowbound?

03-31-2010, 02:12 AM	#4
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events The only thing odd I noticed from the videos (besides Bryan opening his door a second before he's about to leave the line) is that on both of Bryan's runs and Tommy D's run the burnouts didn't produce hardly any smoke. Is that normal for your routines? if it is, that's fine, but I'm used to a little more smoke than the small wisp that was evident there. Is this possibly an indication of something different with the track? It was cold as all get out. My understanding was that they didn't start running until a little later on Saturday and Sunday was because they were trying to build heat into the track. I can't say whether that is true or not though. If nothing else, I enjoyed the commentary at the end of the video of Tommy D's run. I think it summed it up perfectly. __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

03-31-2010, 06:21 AM	#5
Tom DePascale Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sayreville NJ Posts: 471 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events Jason thats normal for me with my Mickey's they had nobody in water box & no water maybe water shortage (not in NJ thats for sure)the car left fine it was after it came off stop with my mammoth horsepower it went hard right I tried to recover but after 2nd move forget it. Nice to see you @ track Jason maybe next time with your car. Keith I might go to MIR if weather is nice try IHRA cause NHRA has not been fun lately!

03-31-2010, 06:38 AM	#6
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events (besides Bryan opening his door a second before he's about to leave the line) I open the door to let the smoke out of the car and close after both per stage bulbs are lite always have always will. As for the short burnout , that is all that is needed to hook ( I like my vavle springs) as Tommy said the 60' was fine the problem was about 400' thru 800' out as seen in 2nd video of Camaro ( car moved to center line ) See ya all @ MIR

03-31-2010, 11:34 AM	#7
SCohen Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FL Posts: 17 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: what is wrong with the national events What that video did not show was my car turning left with front tires in the air. 002 and trying to wreck my car. This was with out question the worst track I have ever been on. The NHRA did not seem to think there was a problem as usual, real smart lets use the virgin lanes at Charlotte for all the super classes. And as normal lets get the show done with no regard to there sportsman racers or there cars. Bracket racing is going to get a lot more populated by NHRA sportsman racers at the rate NHRA keeps ****ting on us. Steve Cohen

03-31-2010, 04:41 PM	#9
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,196 Likes: 1,163 Liked 1,886 Times in 579 Posts	Re: what is wrong with the national events jason, my time run on friday mourning was just like tommy's etc. i do a very short burnout, M/T tires, same 60' so not there, ok after the stop came back on, 2.78 out. It was around the 1/8 th mile mark my car took a sharp left turn. and if you read some of these post again you will see many underpowered cars still could not get down the track. i also remember seeing sportsman finals on tv (lucas oil coverage) from some race that was held over till monday, i remember a biondo and massell run in comp, aborted runs, super comp wreck, then same aborted runs in finals, super gas, (brianna sp.) and ? aborted runs, super stock same thing, even STOCK was spinning the whole way down the track, can someone refresh my memory on what race this was... HEY NHRA THERE IS A PROBLEM ! wasn't nhra founded on the basics of safety??????? Last edited by Keith 944; 03-31-2010 at 04:50 PM.