Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?

442OLDS · 04-05-2010, 09:20 PM

Just wanted to start a controversial thread before racing season gets under way for me.
Since it has been pretty much determined that the fastest cars relative to their indexes are not necessarily the "hardest working",but may also be a beneficiary of a "soft" horsepower factor,what would be wrong with running Indy as an All run field?

Even Big Daddy would have qualified if this policy was in effect last year.

(Disclaimer: This is just for discussion only.Don't beat me up too bad! (LOL)

Ed Fernandez · 04-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

Just wanted to start a controversial thread before racing season gets under way for me.
Since it has been pretty much determined that the fastest cars relative to their indexes are not necessarily the "hardest working",but may also be a beneficiary of a "soft" horsepower factor,what would be wrong with running Indy as an All run field?

Even Big Daddy would have qualified if this policy was in effect last year.

(Disclaimer: This is just for discussion only.Don't beat me up too bad! (LOL)

You left out an important option:
"ALL class winners first then fastest class losers".Oh,I'm sorry that's the way it used to be.
If you substitute your name for Big Daddys I think that would be to your liking.
If you add that option I think I can make an objective vote.
Hey,it's only a discussion.

442OLDS · 04-05-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You left out an important option:
"ALL class winners first then fastest class losers".Oh,I'm sorry that's the way it used to be.
If you substitute your name for Big Daddys I think that would be to your liking.
Hey,it's just a discussion.

That is correct,but do you honestly think that you could qualify too?
Just asking.Just remember that one second under before is only 7 tenths under now.

Ed Fernandez · 04-05-2010, 10:03 PM

See below.

Ed Fernandez · 04-05-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

That is correct,but do you honestly think that you could qualify too?
Just asking.Just remember that one second under before is only 7 tenths under now.

Right,but I'm not the only one penalised .3 .Everyone else is too.I know better than to go to Indy with my car.Every year it's common knowledge what it might take to make the field.
I know that in that weather my car was MAYBE a .90 under car.So why bother to waste a whole lot of travel money to make 2-3 time shots and then sit it out?
There is no way in hell you'll see an all run field at ANY national event.
BTW I would have to deal with Bob Shaw,Cap't Jack,Brian Philbrick and a few other jet pilots in R or T.

442OLDS · 04-05-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I know that in that weather my car was MAYBE a .90 under car.So why bother to waste a whole lot of travel money to make 2-3 time shots and then sit it out?

I will ask the same questions of you that you asked of me.Why are you so slow?
Don't you work on your car?

( I know you have a tough combo to race especially in bad air)
(Just messing with you)

Mike Carr · 04-05-2010, 10:20 PM

The correct option isn't listed in the poll.

3) "All Class Winners, plus Low ET Qualifiers, to make 128 car field".

The only way Indy should EVER be all run is if 128, or less, cars show up. Otherwise, it's a glorified National Open with Class run-offs.

junior barns · 04-05-2010, 11:08 PM

I can qualify and have many times in the past BUT will never go to that dog and pony show again!!!

All you nuts can have it

bill dedman · 04-06-2010, 01:15 AM

Since I have NO dog in that hunt, nobody can accuse me of trying to feather my nest, but with that in mind, I am curious as to what the reason is for disallowing cars that cannot make the 128-car qualified field.

In fact, if it's such an honor to participate because your car is fast enough to hold one of the top 128 slots, using that thinking, why not just revert to the once-protocol and make it a requirement that you win your class to run the Eliminator.

We might find out just how fast some of these cars REALLY are, then. Couldn't have THAT, now, could we????

But, seriously, who does it make uncomfortable to have an "all run" policy in Stock Eliminator at Indy on Labor Day? I knew a guy who wouldn't go because he knew he couldn't qualify, and his car was arguably the quickest car in his divisiion in a VERY popular (lotsa cars) class.

His index was tougher than the others' and he was screwed....

Those people deserve to race if they've spent the money and have the grade points.

Once again, whom does it hurt, if it's an all-run format?

Just askin'....

X-TECH MAN · 04-06-2010, 06:51 AM

[QUOTE=bill dedman;

Those people deserve to race if they've spent the money and have the grade points.

Once again, whom does it hurt, if it's an all-run format?

Just askin'....[/QUOTE]

The people with BIG money and even BIGGER EGO's. They just cant stand it when someone with a .5 or so under car beats them and cry like a baby.

View Poll Results: Should Indy Be All Run Field In Stock?
ONLY 128 Fastest Cars under index	133	66.50%
ALL RUN FIELD	67	33.50%
Voters: 200. You may not vote on this poll

04-05-2010, 09:20 PM	#1
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? Just wanted to start a controversial thread before racing season gets under way for me. Since it has been pretty much determined that the fastest cars relative to their indexes are not necessarily the "hardest working",but may also be a beneficiary of a "soft" horsepower factor,what would be wrong with running Indy as an All run field? Even Big Daddy would have qualified if this policy was in effect last year. (Disclaimer: This is just for discussion only.Don't beat me up too bad! (LOL)

04-05-2010, 10:03 PM	#4
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? See below. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA Last edited by Ed Fernandez; 04-05-2010 at 10:08 PM.

04-05-2010, 10:20 PM	#7
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? The correct option isn't listed in the poll. 3) "All Class Winners, plus Low ET Qualifiers, to make 128 car field". The only way Indy should EVER be all run is if 128, or less, cars show up. Otherwise, it's a glorified National Open with Class run-offs. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

04-05-2010, 11:08 PM	#8
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? I can qualify and have many times in the past BUT will never go to that dog and pony show again!!! All you nuts can have it

04-06-2010, 01:15 AM	#9
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? Since I have NO dog in that hunt, nobody can accuse me of trying to feather my nest, but with that in mind, I am curious as to what the reason is for disallowing cars that cannot make the 128-car qualified field. In fact, if it's such an honor to participate because your car is fast enough to hold one of the top 128 slots, using that thinking, why not just revert to the once-protocol and make it a requirement that you win your class to run the Eliminator. We might find out just how fast some of these cars REALLY are, then. Couldn't have THAT, now, could we???? But, seriously, who does it make uncomfortable to have an "all run" policy in Stock Eliminator at Indy on Labor Day? I knew a guy who wouldn't go because he knew he couldn't qualify, and his car was arguably the quickest car in his divisiion in a VERY popular (lotsa cars) class. His index was tougher than the others' and he was screwed.... Those people deserve to race if they've spent the money and have the grade points. Once again, whom does it hurt, if it's an all-run format? Just askin'.... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 04-06-2010 at 01:18 AM.

04-06-2010, 06:51 AM	#10
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? [QUOTE=bill dedman; Those people deserve to race if they've spent the money and have the grade points. Once again, whom does it hurt, if it's an all-run format? Just askin'....[/QUOTE] The people with BIG money and even BIGGER EGO's. They just cant stand it when someone with a .5 or so under car beats them and cry like a baby.