4 Wide for 2011

Brian VP · 04-17-2010, 06:46 PM

This should just go to show why we don't want Bruton to buy NHRA. Bruton obviously was the only one who like 4 wide and since his ego was on the line he held the race of his races hostage. Now that his tracks have 1/4 of the NHRA national events NHRA has no choice but to kiss his butt. I actually was kind of surprised when I saw that Bruton was still so much behind the 4 wide concept after polls showed that 75% of fans didn't like it. I thought that he was smarter than that and he wanted to make the fans happy. I was wrong he is just another rich ego driven fool. I for one am sick of hearing his bullying and circus style concepts and I have no plans to ever run at Charlotte. I will just continue to race the way that it was supposed to be. Just my 2 cents.
Brian

Dale Shannon · 04-17-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian VP

This should just go to show why we don't want Bruton to buy NHRA. Bruton obviously was the only one who like 4 wide and since his ego was on the line he held the race of his races hostage. Now that his tracks have 1/4 of the NHRA national events NHRA has no choice but to kiss his butt. I actually was kind of surprised when I saw that Bruton was still so much behind the 4 wide concept after polls showed that 75% of fans didn't like it. I thought that he was smarter than that and he wanted to make the fans happy. I was wrong he is just another rich ego driven fool. I for one am sick of hearing his bullying and circus style concepts and I have no plans to ever run at Charlotte. I will just continue to race the way that it was supposed to be. Just my 2 cents.
Brian

Doesnt this only effect the pro's why would you even care? This is brutons toy let him play with it. Who has built the most recent tracks for you crowd pleasing Stockers to race at. Im sure Bruton will miss you.
Dale

Brian VP · 04-17-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

Doesnt this only effect the pro's why would you even care? This is brutons toy let him play with it. Who has built the most recent tracks for you crowd pleasing Stockers to race at. Im sure Bruton will miss you.
Dale

Dale I know that Bruton doesn't really care about whether or not I go to his race and that is fine with me. My ego is in check. It matters to me because it affects our sport that I race in. If a band of racers don't like racing a certain way I would think that others who have embattled the same obstacles might support them. Remember, PRO wasn't even asked if it would be ok to do this the first time. Bruton and NHRA forced it on them. Kind of sounds familiar doesn't it. 61 of 63 Owners/drivers voted against it. 75 percent of the fans voted against it. Maybe Bruton should just stick to building nice tracks rather than becoming Ringling Brothers. And by the way, I race Super Stock.

Dale Shannon · 04-17-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian VP

Dale I know that Bruton doesn't really care about whether or not I go to his race and that is fine with me. My ego is in check. It matters to me because it affects our sport that I race in. If a band of racers don't like racing a certain way I would think that others who have embattled the same obstacles might support them. Remember, PRO wasn't even asked if it would be ok to do this the first time. Bruton and NHRA forced it on them. Kind of sounds familiar doesn't it. 61 of 63 Owners/drivers voted against it. 75 percent of the fans voted against it. Maybe Bruton should just stick to building nice tracks rather than becoming Ringling Brothers. And by the way, I race Super Stock.

Well one more comment from me on this, because I think this should be in the lounge. I don't think Bruton or NHRA is going to put a gun to any of the pros head to come to Charlotte. Brutons BIG TOP thinking is why he has built so many nice tracks. Ah Super Stock I know he will miss you now...
Dale

Brian VP · 04-17-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

Well one more comment from me on this, because I think this should be in the lounge. I don't think Bruton or NHRA is going to put a gun to any of the pros head to come to Charlotte. Brutons BIG TOP thinking is why he has built so many nice tracks. Ah Super Stock I know he will miss you now...
Dale

I think if they didn't come Bruton and NHRA might put a gun to there own head. 4 wide with no cars equals 0 spectators and zero $. And again I still know Bruton doesn't need me, remember I ended that conversation when I said he doesn't need me, my ego is in check. I just don't want to go to a circus. That is why I am not going to Charlotte.

treessavoy · 04-17-2010, 09:26 PM

The interesting part of all of this is that the Pro's voted NOT to race 4 wide next year. It's going to be hard for them to put on the race without the Pro's....providing they stick to their guns.

JimR

Ken Miele · 04-17-2010, 10:23 PM

I had blast at Charlotte, its by far the best track I have ever been to. The four wide was cool to watch, I am not sure I would want to be a pro and race a 4 wide. I can tell you the weather was on the cool side, but the stands were packed. The TV audience may have not liked it, but the locals looked like they enjoyed it. Its a beautiful track, you can say what you want about Bruton, but he sure knows how to build a drag strip.

The only complaint I would have is that lanes 3 and 4 were not as good as 1 and 2. The .90 cars were having a rough time when they came off the throttle stop. I think its because 3 and 4 are not used as much.

Brain, I can respect your decision not wanting to support that race, but for me its on my list, and I can't wait to get there in the Fall. As far as the pro's not showing up, I doubt it very much. Remember they have sponsor obligations. They just can't stay home like they were one of us.

Steves68Nova · 04-17-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by treessavoy

The interesting part of all of this is that the Pro's voted NOT to race 4 wide next year. It's going to be hard for them to put on the race without the Pro's....providing they stick to their guns.

Waht I read was the didn't want to run 4 wide for "points". Not that they would not run 4 wide.

joe176 · 04-17-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian VP

Dale I know that Bruton doesn't really care about whether or not I go to his race and that is fine with me. My ego is in check. It matters to me because it affects our sport that I race in. If a band of racers don't like racing a certain way I would think that others who have embattled the same obstacles might support them. Remember, PRO wasn't even asked if it would be ok to do this the first time. Bruton and NHRA forced it on them. Kind of sounds familiar doesn't it. 61 of 63 Owners/drivers voted against it. 75 percent of the fans voted against it. Maybe Bruton should just stick to building nice tracks rather than becoming Ringling Brothers. And by the way, I race Super Stock.

I couldn't have said it better !!!!!

04-17-2010, 06:46 PM	#1
Brian VP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 144 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 1 Post	Re: 4 Wide for 2011 This should just go to show why we don't want Bruton to buy NHRA. Bruton obviously was the only one who like 4 wide and since his ego was on the line he held the race of his races hostage. Now that his tracks have 1/4 of the NHRA national events NHRA has no choice but to kiss his butt. I actually was kind of surprised when I saw that Bruton was still so much behind the 4 wide concept after polls showed that 75% of fans didn't like it. I thought that he was smarter than that and he wanted to make the fans happy. I was wrong he is just another rich ego driven fool. I for one am sick of hearing his bullying and circus style concepts and I have no plans to ever run at Charlotte. I will just continue to race the way that it was supposed to be. Just my 2 cents. Brian __________________ Brian Van Poppel 1682 SS

04-17-2010, 09:26 PM	#6
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 4 Wide for 2011 The interesting part of all of this is that the Pro's voted NOT to race 4 wide next year. It's going to be hard for them to put on the race without the Pro's....providing they stick to their guns. JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

04-17-2010, 10:23 PM	#7
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,862 Likes: 461 Liked 16,560 Times in 1,523 Posts	Re: 4 Wide for 2011 I had blast at Charlotte, its by far the best track I have ever been to. The four wide was cool to watch, I am not sure I would want to be a pro and race a 4 wide. I can tell you the weather was on the cool side, but the stands were packed. The TV audience may have not liked it, but the locals looked like they enjoyed it. Its a beautiful track, you can say what you want about Bruton, but he sure knows how to build a drag strip. The only complaint I would have is that lanes 3 and 4 were not as good as 1 and 2. The .90 cars were having a rough time when they came off the throttle stop. I think its because 3 and 4 are not used as much. Brain, I can respect your decision not wanting to support that race, but for me its on my list, and I can't wait to get there in the Fall. As far as the pro's not showing up, I doubt it very much. Remember they have sponsor obligations. They just can't stay home like they were one of us.