Divisionals, records, and teardowns

Dean Feiock · 05-10-2010, 04:43 PM

You cannot set a record at a National Event, in sportsman classes.

You can be torn down at a National, Divisional, or National Open.

Charlie Yannetti · 05-10-2010, 05:02 PM

I can attest to the fact that Bob was all apart at the Atco race.. CONGRATS on the record, Bob, but it didn't look like a fun way to spend the day.. LOL

Bob Bender · 05-10-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Yannetti

I can attest to the fact that Bob was all apart at the Atco race.. CONGRATS on the record, Bob, but it didn't look like a fun way to spend the day.. LOL

I did have alot of fun but the sun was killing me late in the day. I must be getting to old to do this......

Jimi B · 05-10-2010, 05:31 PM

What all has to be taken apart during a tear down? Is it the same every time? When can you set a record? Only during qualifying? If so would teardown be saturday night or sometime prior to first round? Or after eliminations? Lastly, dont you have to designate that you are going for a record run? If you happen to run faster than the index but are not going for a record run would you still have to teardown?

Im trying to finish my car up this week.. My body, mind, and bank acct our severely depleted this month... I am desperately trying to make it to Norwalk this weekend. My combo is something that I have been working for a decade, and am fairly confident barring new set up hiccups (which I am sure will be there, but just in case the perfect storm happens), should run very well. I dont think I have a tear down in me this weekend. Spare timing belt tensioner, gaskets, (money) effort etc hahah. Well thats a lie... Im always up for a good thrash, but Id like to avoid taking this think apart 72 hours after putting it all together when I dont even have it full sorted yet. Chicago, Michigan, Bowling Green, Cbus, Indy bring it on, but not this weekend! haha

Ill probably get picked on enough.. Wrong wheel drive, turbo, and Mitsubishi... (Under Chrysler in classification guide Mitsubishi Eclipse).... Dont judge a book by its cover though! I am not just a sport compact punk! I have crewed, driven, or built motors for Alcohol Funny Car to S/St except Comp, Stk, and S/Stk..

And while this is my thread and I can go off topic... Making it to Michigan, Cbus, and Chicago should have me at 3 grade points by july 25. On July 28 3 grade pointers can register for Indy. They always take 180 entries then 128 qualify correct? Looks like they haven't quite had 180 for several years. should I be in good shape for my Indy dreams?

Jimi B · 05-10-2010, 05:34 PM

Oh and Bob, after im done with the FWD, I may go the AWD Eclipse route, which would put me I believe a natural O/SA... That will be a lot of hard work to catch up with you!

Jeff Lee · 05-10-2010, 05:57 PM

You're driving the car to the races or trailoring to the races? I get the impression your looking at driving the car to the races.
I once drove my AF/S Daytona by myself from Phoenix, AZ to Denver, CO where I set the AF/S record. It's about an 18 hour drive. Set the record (first 13 second FWD @ 13.26), tore down, slashed my wrist wide open because a wrench slipped off a really big nut, taped it and glued it shut, finally drove to the hotel with the car and magnetic stickers at 1:00 A.M., ran the first 100+ MPH FWD pass on the first round after tear-down, drove home, got a ticket for 85 or 88 MPH in the rain in NM and the cop said he'd been after me for about two miles and "didn't I see his lights?" I said "that 5.0L Mustang your driving might have caught me sooner if he had dropped it into passing gear at least."
So to say I wish the whole weekend was documented on video would be a huge understatement!

Yep, one of those stories for the grandkids one day...
So I say go for it and just bring your tools, spare gaskets and plenty of good attitude. Just be careful that street fuel will not pass NHRA fuel check. That will be a major thorn in your side.

Jimi B · 05-10-2010, 06:32 PM

Yeah I was thnkin about the fuel deal this morn. Hmmm. But that is an awesome story!

Jimi B · 05-10-2010, 06:59 PM

what really sucks is I dont need to run anywhere near that gas lol. I could use 92 octane... maybe even 91 lol

Tim Kish · 05-11-2010, 08:22 AM

If you go out with a combo they have never seen before and run under the record or even just really fast in general they could want to look at it. The teardown could range anything from just checking the turbo to pulling a rod/piston. It's in your best interest to go easy the first time out.

Marty Buth · 05-11-2010, 10:25 AM

National Records are only allowed to be set on Friday at Division 3 events.

05-10-2010, 04:43 PM	#1
Dean Feiock Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pierre, SD Posts: 204 Likes: 0 Liked 49 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns You cannot set a record at a National Event, in sportsman classes. You can be torn down at a National, Divisional, or National Open. __________________ Dean Feiock -- Stock 5002

05-10-2010, 05:02 PM	#2
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 568 Likes: 188 Liked 192 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns I can attest to the fact that Bob was all apart at the Atco race.. CONGRATS on the record, Bob, but it didn't look like a fun way to spend the day.. LOL

05-10-2010, 05:31 PM	#4
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns What all has to be taken apart during a tear down? Is it the same every time? When can you set a record? Only during qualifying? If so would teardown be saturday night or sometime prior to first round? Or after eliminations? Lastly, dont you have to designate that you are going for a record run? If you happen to run faster than the index but are not going for a record run would you still have to teardown? Im trying to finish my car up this week.. My body, mind, and bank acct our severely depleted this month... I am desperately trying to make it to Norwalk this weekend. My combo is something that I have been working for a decade, and am fairly confident barring new set up hiccups (which I am sure will be there, but just in case the perfect storm happens), should run very well. I dont think I have a tear down in me this weekend. Spare timing belt tensioner, gaskets, (money) effort etc hahah. Well thats a lie... Im always up for a good thrash, but Id like to avoid taking this think apart 72 hours after putting it all together when I dont even have it full sorted yet. Chicago, Michigan, Bowling Green, Cbus, Indy bring it on, but not this weekend! haha Ill probably get picked on enough.. Wrong wheel drive, turbo, and Mitsubishi... (Under Chrysler in classification guide Mitsubishi Eclipse).... Dont judge a book by its cover though! I am not just a sport compact punk! I have crewed, driven, or built motors for Alcohol Funny Car to S/St except Comp, Stk, and S/Stk.. And while this is my thread and I can go off topic... Making it to Michigan, Cbus, and Chicago should have me at 3 grade points by july 25. On July 28 3 grade pointers can register for Indy. They always take 180 entries then 128 qualify correct? Looks like they haven't quite had 180 for several years. should I be in good shape for my Indy dreams? __________________ Jimmy Bowling BF/S 3808 www.facebook.com/jimib1980

05-10-2010, 05:34 PM	#5
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns Oh and Bob, after im done with the FWD, I may go the AWD Eclipse route, which would put me I believe a natural O/SA... That will be a lot of hard work to catch up with you! __________________ Jimmy Bowling BF/S 3808 www.facebook.com/jimib1980

05-10-2010, 05:57 PM	#6
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns You're driving the car to the races or trailoring to the races? I get the impression your looking at driving the car to the races. I once drove my AF/S Daytona by myself from Phoenix, AZ to Denver, CO where I set the AF/S record. It's about an 18 hour drive. Set the record (first 13 second FWD @ 13.26), tore down, slashed my wrist wide open because a wrench slipped off a really big nut, taped it and glued it shut, finally drove to the hotel with the car and magnetic stickers at 1:00 A.M., ran the first 100+ MPH FWD pass on the first round after tear-down, drove home, got a ticket for 85 or 88 MPH in the rain in NM and the cop said he'd been after me for about two miles and "didn't I see his lights?" I said "that 5.0L Mustang your driving might have caught me sooner if he had dropped it into passing gear at least." So to say I wish the whole weekend was documented on video would be a huge understatement! Yep, one of those stories for the grandkids one day... So I say go for it and just bring your tools, spare gaskets and plenty of good attitude. Just be careful that street fuel will not pass NHRA fuel check. That will be a major thorn in your side. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

05-10-2010, 06:32 PM	#7
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns Yeah I was thnkin about the fuel deal this morn. Hmmm. But that is an awesome story! __________________ Jimmy Bowling BF/S 3808 www.facebook.com/jimib1980

05-10-2010, 06:59 PM	#8
Jimi B Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns what really sucks is I dont need to run anywhere near that gas lol. I could use 92 octane... maybe even 91 lol __________________ Jimmy Bowling BF/S 3808 www.facebook.com/jimib1980

05-11-2010, 08:22 AM	#9
Tim Kish Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 281 Likes: 2 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns If you go out with a combo they have never seen before and run under the record or even just really fast in general they could want to look at it. The teardown could range anything from just checking the turbo to pulling a rod/piston. It's in your best interest to go easy the first time out. __________________ Tim Kish 3032 SS/GS

05-11-2010, 10:25 AM	#10
Marty Buth Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Freeport, IL Posts: 467 Likes: 662 Liked 232 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Divisionals, records, and teardowns National Records are only allowed to be set on Friday at Division 3 events. __________________ Marty Buth 3657 STK