10.59 @127.67

427_ED · 05-17-2010, 06:31 PM

Chris, no no no, not a transbrake. A clutch peddle!

Chris "drooze" Wertman · 05-17-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 427_ED

Chris, no no no, not a transbrake. A clutch peddle!

Hehe, I have been thinking about it......seriously thinking about it for our next trans change.

Jeff Teuton · 05-17-2010, 08:13 PM

I don't think there will be a new car with the conventional 'drive by wire' throttle system. That was one of the problems in developing the new cars for racing. Just ask Toyota. NHRA wants a return spring of some kind. At least that was a problem with the Mopars. I think the throttle body on the stock 6.1 is as big or bigger than the DP. And since we want to rehash some of this stuff, where was the concern for my old Six Pack car when the 396's and the Fords ran 5 tenths ahead of me. Where was the sympathy? Some of yall are a little one sided. I got a better combination now and I'm a bad guy now. Didn't realize I had changed with the new car. Just goes to show ya.

Chris "drooze" Wertman · 05-17-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

I don't think there will be a new car with the conventional 'drive by wire' throttle system. That was one of the problems in developing the new cars for racing. Just ask Toyota. NHRA wants a return spring of some kind. At least that was a problem with the Mopars. I think the throttle body on the stock 6.1 is as big or bigger than the DP. And since we want to rehash some of this stuff, where was the concern for my old Six Pack car when the 396's and the Fords ran 5 tenths ahead of me. Where was the sympathy? Some of yall are a little one sided. I got a better combination now and I'm a bad guy now. Didn't realize I had changed with the new car. Just goes to show ya.

Jeff, we havent met, from what I have heard from EVERY SINGLE Person at the track who knows you is a resounding echo of what a stand up guy and all around class act you are. I hear laughs from racers who read stuff here where people either dig on you or your combo, what they say typically goes like this "I know Jeff you wont meet a nicer guy or better racer, now that he has one of these cars these morons who dont know him somehow see him as a bad guy, its the stupidest thing in the world, especially Jeff Teuton, hes one great guy"

Ive heard the same thing from several racers.

I dont think one single person sees you as a bad guy.

What I was told and I find it to be true, in more case mine than yours, WE Give them a TARGET , a Vocal point who will respond to their dismay , anger and frustration , much of it understandable.

But, not many CJ Guys post here, or will tangle on one of the threads...

You do very seldom. I do often. But not many other will, so WE , WE Give the people out there a TARGET, nothing more.

Now me, well, I give them a target if I had an 84 Yugo that was disassembled but in the guides.....because of my opinions and my mouth, but I have never seen anything of the like from you.

I think, and I maybe wrong, the only reason you were included in the "Whipping Boys" is youre the only other one than myself running something other than the A/AA 6.1 Combo and we affect more people across the classes, AND You will read and respond here.....

Just my 2 cents, I cant wait to meet you in person.

I had the fortune of getting a helping hand call from Larry Griffith today and he seem like one hell of a super nice guy too.

You are about 1000% right about the Drive By Wire, most ECU Manufactuers wont support it for liability reasons alone.....

bigshow2966 · 05-17-2010, 08:53 PM

The CJ's and DP's are a lot less bogus than some of the "Paper Cars" racing in Stock today. At least we know for sure that you can buy one.

Jeff Teuton · 05-17-2010, 09:00 PM

2010 DP, 6.1, 39K, one for sure, maybe two. FOB Detroit

X-TECH MAN · 05-17-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

I don't think there will be a new car with the conventional 'drive by wire' throttle system. That was one of the problems in developing the new cars for racing. Just ask Toyota. NHRA wants a return spring of some kind. At least that was a problem with the Mopars. I think the throttle body on the stock 6.1 is as big or bigger than the DP. And since we want to rehash some of this stuff, where was the concern for my old Six Pack car when the 396's and the Fords ran 5 tenths ahead of me. Where was the sympathy? Some of yall are a little one sided. I got a better combination now and I'm a bad guy now. Didn't realize I had changed with the new car. Just goes to show ya.

Jeff.....you needed to port the heads and intake more like most of them to keep up......lol.

novassdude · 05-17-2010, 09:22 PM

Guy’s I do not think anyone hates either of you. You are just playing by NHRA’s rules it is there rules that are the problem. They just change them to suit themselves.
I know nothing about the new Challenger or Mustang as far as how the throttle works. Are you telling me there is no way they could convert it to a manual throttle?

rawhide · 05-17-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by novassdude

Guy’s I do not think anyone hates either of you. You are just playing by NHRA’s rules it is there rules that are the problem. They just change them to suit themselves.
I know nothing about the new Challenger or Mustang as far as how the throttle works. Are you telling me there is no way they could convert it to a manual throttle?

Ford Racing has manual throttle bodies in the pipeline for the CJ's. I can't say for sure when they will be available. I will be glad to check if anyone is interested.
Roland

SS Engine Guy · 05-17-2010, 10:40 PM

Jeff, Drooze and any of the new Ford guys....... Don't ever think that I think of you as a "bad guy" or taking advantage in any way. As has been said before, you didn't make the rules you are just playing by them.

Now as for the santioning bodies rating combos like this. That was a bad move. It shows a total lack of respect for long time participants that have beat their combos to death in order to be in the top half in class run offs. These certainly aren't the only underfactored combos that come to mind. I just feel that "class fast" should be the result of a well researched combo, lots of R&D, 5 to 15 converters, 3 to 5 rear gear and tire diameter experiments, hundreds of t&t passes,etc.... not the numbers submitted and approved on a piece of paper. Thats what makes this challenging in my eyes. 25% car and 25% driver and 25% engine tuner and 25%chassis tuner.

De-valuing property of customers is not a good way to sustain customer loyalty.

05-17-2010, 06:31 PM	#1
427_ED Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Nicholasville, KY Posts: 265 Likes: 54 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: 10.59 @127.67 Chris, no no no, not a transbrake. A clutch peddle!

05-17-2010, 08:13 PM	#3
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: 10.59 @127.67 I don't think there will be a new car with the conventional 'drive by wire' throttle system. That was one of the problems in developing the new cars for racing. Just ask Toyota. NHRA wants a return spring of some kind. At least that was a problem with the Mopars. I think the throttle body on the stock 6.1 is as big or bigger than the DP. And since we want to rehash some of this stuff, where was the concern for my old Six Pack car when the 396's and the Fords ran 5 tenths ahead of me. Where was the sympathy? Some of yall are a little one sided. I got a better combination now and I'm a bad guy now. Didn't realize I had changed with the new car. Just goes to show ya. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

05-17-2010, 08:53 PM	#5
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 653 Likes: 671 Liked 178 Times in 54 Posts	Re: 10.59 @127.67 The CJ's and DP's are a lot less bogus than some of the "Paper Cars" racing in Stock today. At least we know for sure that you can buy one.

05-17-2010, 09:00 PM	#6
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: 10.59 @127.67 2010 DP, 6.1, 39K, one for sure, maybe two. FOB Detroit __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

05-17-2010, 09:22 PM	#8
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: 10.59 @127.67 Guy’s I do not think anyone hates either of you. You are just playing by NHRA’s rules it is there rules that are the problem. They just change them to suit themselves. I know nothing about the new Challenger or Mustang as far as how the throttle works. Are you telling me there is no way they could convert it to a manual throttle?

05-17-2010, 10:40 PM	#10
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 10.59 @127.67 Jeff, Drooze and any of the new Ford guys....... Don't ever think that I think of you as a "bad guy" or taking advantage in any way. As has been said before, you didn't make the rules you are just playing by them. Now as for the santioning bodies rating combos like this. That was a bad move. It shows a total lack of respect for long time participants that have beat their combos to death in order to be in the top half in class run offs. These certainly aren't the only underfactored combos that come to mind. I just feel that "class fast" should be the result of a well researched combo, lots of R&D, 5 to 15 converters, 3 to 5 rear gear and tire diameter experiments, hundreds of t&t passes,etc.... not the numbers submitted and approved on a piece of paper. Thats what makes this challenging in my eyes. 25% car and 25% driver and 25% engine tuner and 25%chassis tuner. De-valuing property of customers is not a good way to sustain customer loyalty.