HP on monday???

[Greg Hill]

Terry, I would love to race IHRA, the only race they have that is close is Clay City on July 4th weekend. It's not a terrible track but it sure isn't great and the next closest is Milan Michigan which is about 6 hours away. I have no problem with IHRA. If I lived in the Carolinas I would race a lot of IHRA, but I don't. The problem Is the quality of the facilities and the location for a lot of us.

[hadtobethere]

...when only the AA-A-B-C guys were effected with the new bogus combos, the D-E-F-G guys were?.....and now that they are effected ??.......same story for more players

You only join forces when it effects you, kind of like most everything, huh?

[Lyn Smith]

Heard there is a new Ford combo that can fit I ,J,K that some say can run in the 10s easy!!!!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Terry, I would love to race IHRA, the only race they have that is close is Clay City on July 4th weekend. It's not a terrible track but it sure isn't great and the next closest is Milan Michigan which is about 6 hours away. I have no problem with IHRA. If I lived in the Carolinas I would race a lot of IHRA, but I don't. The problem Is the quality of the facilities and the location for a lot of us.

Greg......Its like being between the rock and a hard spot. IHRA cant get the cream of the tracks unless they get participation. Same deal with contengencies. It takes time and commitment from both sides. Which came first....the horse or the cart. NHRA didnt have what they have over night though to most younger guys on here it might seem that way. They were not around in the lean years to see how things were. IHRA was on a roll in the early years but due to bad decisions, bad management and probably most of all....the Billy Meyer fiasco.....IHRA took a hit and never fully recovered then had a bunch of jerk offs pretending to run the association in later years. Bill Bader was the best thing to ever happen to IHRA and his friends and partners screwed over him so he bailed out. Cant say that I blame him. There is so much the general racing community will never hear about that went on behind closed doors. Things I wont say on an open forum. Now its the economy so GOOD sponsors and GOOD tracks are few and far between. Without support they will never recover. I havent been with them in about 10 years so its no skin off my butt. Its just that NHRA keeps treating the little guy like dirt such as yourself without any recourse and the die hards just keep on supporting them anyway. I just dont see the attraction of getting screwed every time the NHRA racers turn around. Its almost like they enjoy the beatings and drain on their wallets. Its almost like a "Good ole Boys Club". I think travel distance is a cop out. I read and hear about so and so making trip after trip to the west coast from the east coast and the other way around. Most racers from Div. one wont travel any farther than exit #4 and exit# 8 on the NJ turnpike but that may be because of the quantity of stock and S/S racers located in that area and they can get over 100 cars easy . Its like a captured audience. Its a free USA (so far) so make a decision to fight what is happening to the litle guy now or continue to taking it up your shorts. Makes no difference to me.

[Alan Roehrich]

Terry, travel distance is no cop out. Greg is right, outside of Clay City, there are no close IHRA races for us. Milan, Imokalee, and the east coast, not one is close to home.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Terry, travel distance is no cop out. Greg is right, outside of Clay City, there are no close IHRA races for us. Milan, Imokalee, and the east coast, not one is close to home.

True....No argument from me but without support (very tough in this economy) there will NEVER be any IHRA tracks closer to home. The KEY word is support. It just wouldnt be good business for the tracks to make the switch.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

True....No argument from me but without support (very tough in this economy) there will NEVER be any IHRA tracks closer to home. The KEY word is support. It just wouldnt be good business for the tracks to make the switch.

Terry, we understand that. It's just not really feasible, time or money wise, we've looked at it. And that's coming from guys thrashing on a 69 427 Camaro, the new cars have us covered pretty well. We're like Greg, running combo races close to home.

[Lyn Smith]

I'm sorry to say we will probably be losing a few more IHRA tracks up here in the North also.Poor turn out at Byron this pass weekend will proabably be the last there. Only 17 cars in Stock ,and 8 in Super Stock racing in the Race of Champions qualifier on Sunday.Pretty bad for a race that had a IHRA National event payout!!!!!!!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Terry, we understand that. It's just not really feasible, time or money wise, we've looked at it. And that's coming from guys thrashing on a 69 427 Camaro, the new cars have us covered pretty well. We're like Greg, running combo races close to home.

Its sad but in time IHRA will cease to exist then all you will have is the NHRA way or the Hi-Way. The new AHRA never had a chance to get started because of all the control NHRA already has over the tracks. Kind of like just having nothing but the Dems in office running the country. More stuff shoved down our throats (or up the other end) and no way to fight "City Hall". Enjoy what you have.....for now.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Terry, travel distance is no cop out. Greg is right, outside of Clay City, there are no close IHRA races for us. Milan, Imokalee, and the east coast, not one is close to home.

If you want to chase points from where you are, even without filling out a "full" schedule and only going to 6 races, in NHRA, you would go to Reynolds, 2 in Atlanta, Bowling Green, Columbus, and Indy, for 57 hrs on the road. If you ran IHRA, you could go to Montgomery (double-header... missed seeing you there...), Clay City (double header), and Jackson (double-header), for less than 31 hrs drive time. You could add Darlington (double-header) and get a full 8 races in and your total is still under 47 hrs. To get your full 8 races in NHRA, you'd have to add Gainesville, and No Problem, which takes you up to 93.5 hrs just to chase 8 Divisionals.

To run a Divisional schedule in NHRA, you're not only looking at TWICE the mileage, but also 24 to 32 days wrapped up in it which includes many lost days of work, as opposed to 8 to 12 days (only 1 work day if you're smart) to chase IHRA. Oh, and if you want to chase the World Championship in NHRA, start looking at adding the time and travel for 3-6 Nationals, too. IHRA, finish Top 3 in the Division and you get a free ride into a $10,000 to win (plus contingency, etc) World Championship Tournament. If you'd like to improve your chances, you have 3 National events within 9 hrs. They're only 2 day events, and you're done early on the second day, so you don't lose much travel time. It's a little more of a stretch, but you could make the national at Crandall, TX too, at 11hrs (easy driving road, too), which is closer than Palm Beach, Immokalee, and Martin are for me.

Maybe some people haven't put a pencil to it and really figured out what opportunities are out there. I can help people find schedules and explain various programs if they need help. Just holler.