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Old 07-01-2010, 08:32 PM   #1
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Default Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker.

As usual Dwight is right on the money.

I would say the Junior Stock "era " officially ended with the Little Guy Nationals at Suffolk Raceway, at the end of 1971.
Right, Terry?
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:15 PM   #2
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Default Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker.

Good ol Bob Rice once emailed me a scanned copy of the ND national record page showing my N/S et record (Ronca Bros held the MPH for about ever, I never could run that one) the last year before they dropped Stock and forced us to run SS. He may remember the year. I have it in one of the computers in my office. I can check when I get back to work Tuesday. Somebody will come up with it before then.
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Good ol Bob Rice once emailed me a scanned copy of the ND national record page showing my N/S et record (Ronca Bros held the MPH for about ever, I never could run that one) the last year before they dropped Stock and forced us to run SS. He may remember the year. I have it in one of the computers in my office. I can check when I get back to work Tuesday. Somebody will come up with it before then.
1972 was when the Jr. stockers became Super Stockers.
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So basically, anything not 'Top Stock'
As per 1966. B/Stock and on down.
Hard to imagine a 66' Chevelle SS396/375HP considered as a Junior Stock car.
I just kind of though that the small-block Chevy was the basis for
Junior Stock.
Kind of remember in 1967, the 57' Chevy 283/283HP Fuel Injection
D/Stock car as the base point for some reason.
In 1967, more or less, any car that ran 13.00's and above.
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Weren"t Jr. Stockers really like H/S on down stick and auto? TERRY?
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Weren"t Jr. Stockers really like H/S on down stick and auto? TERRY?
Usually it was everything below AA/S and down. Some of the tracks around the D.C, area broke it up even more with a "middle stock" and a "little stock" because of the car counts and the influx of NHRA record holders showing up to give the little guys a chance at some $$$. The pay outs were small. Usually around $100 for Jr. stock and $50 to $25 for the other two groups. This was before the bracket racing days.
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X-Tech,
Right, on the Little Eliminator and Middle-Stock stuff.
Same stuff at Dover in the mid-60s'. If you won your class, for an
additional $5.00, you could enter the Eliminator event. Usually, about a dozen cars or so. Winner would get about $40, Runner-Up $20, on a good Sunday.
Always the late-races, around 5:30 PM or so.
Still think the base for Junior Stock in 1965 was the 57' Chevy 150 Sedan with the 283/283HP Fuelie.
Fell into D/S (11.30-11.88 wt/hp).
1965 - D/S
1966 = E/S
1967 = D/S
1968 = G/S
1969 = H/S
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Jr. Stock to my recollection might have been a term used a little but it was really made popular by the magazines that promoted the term I believe.

Stock eliminator was broken into 2 seperate eliminators at my local track. Stock I and Stock II. A to H or something like that was Stock I. There was no AA/S class when I began racing in 1966 or at least I don't recall it being a class by then. A was the top class. Stock II was all the remaining classes. I think this might have led to it being called Top Stock and Jr. Stock at some tracks. They had a lot of cars so splitting the field was common. Once the magazines used the term Jr.Stock.....it caught on.

At some point the term Jr. Stock became very accepted but to me it meant the cars that ran in the "second tier" group. I would never call an A or B stocker a Jr.Stocker.......All you had to do was stand behind one and watch it leave the line on 7" tires.......There was nothing JR about a 427 Biscayne with a 4 speed on 7" tires......or a 396/375 Chevy II with a 4 speed.....


To me the term Jr.Stocker really meant a '55 to '57 Chevy in about 1967-1968.
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Tri State in Ohio ran a top Stock and Jr. Stock with $50 to winner of Jr. and you sold the trophy back for 15$ more. We had a lot of great Steak dinners after those races. Won 7 out of 8 week ends with the converted Dianna 56 Sedan Delivery. (rained the 8th) Old stories are always the best.
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As usual Dwight is right on the money.

I would say the Junior Stock "era " officially ended with the Little Guy Nationals at Suffolk Raceway, at the end of 1971.
Right, Terry?
Yep....When NHRA made all of the neat ole Jr. stockers become Super Stockers it was the end as us old timers know it. Some things were for the better such as a 9 inch slick instead of the 7 inchers and trimming the tires every few runs but when they changed the cam and valve spring rule in 1985 that was the last nail on the coffin.
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