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Old 07-05-2010, 01:02 PM   #1
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NHRA screwed me, just love that one.
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:53 PM   #2
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Quote: I still say it cost more to run brackets than class race. We can debate that anytime.

I guess if you buy back in two or more times? What does that cost? Maybe if a car that is not a 40-110 under the index and don't plan on winning class anytime soon then yeah, it is cheaper to run a bracket car in stock. I take it you are talking entrys only Chip? Certainly not in the engine/trans/diff costs.



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Old 07-05-2010, 03:18 PM   #3
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The worst thing anyone can do is go 5 rounds at a divisional just to get your entrance fee back. Trust me this was what killed my desire. I will go to 2 a year tops from now on until NHRA fixes the payouts. They probably won't so the car counts will continue to drop until Stock and Super Stock is ended. As far as class goes I'll take it as another time trial for now. Can't see spending 10K for a killer motor to maybe get $300 in contingency. I think NHRA and Beard need to talk LOL
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Old 07-05-2010, 04:20 PM   #4
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Barry,
I don't know how things are on the left coast, but here in the SOUTH:
A lot of Bracket races allow you to double enter the same car.
Have 2 rds of buy backs.
One of my Local tracks for example cost:
$35 to run Top e.t.
$40 each BB .
You can spend $115 to race.
The payout is $1200 w
$200 ru
$50 semi
The reason I go is its 4.3 miles from the house.

If you want to go run for big money:
Typical 5k race will be $75-$100 ef x2 because they will allow doubles
BB $50-$75 x 4(possibly because of double entry and 2 rds of BB)

I know most of you "Classy" racers look down your noses at bracket cars but I'll bet you my car cost as much as 75% of the class cars out there, maybe more. There are a lot of cars out there that are double what mine cost too.

I do both. I bracket race. I run IHRA races. I've owned Stockers, HR-SST, SR-SG, QR-SC
Cars and none of them are cheap.
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:17 PM   #5
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Barry,
I don't know how things are on the left coast, but here in the SOUTH:
A lot of Bracket races allow you to double enter the same car.
Have 2 rds of buy backs.
One of my Local tracks for example cost:
$35 to run Top e.t.
$40 each BB .
You can spend $115 to race.
The payout is $1200 w
$200 ru
$50 semi
The reason I go is its 4.3 miles from the house.

If you want to go run for big money:
Typical 5k race will be $75-$100 ef x2 because they will allow doubles
BB $50-$75 x 4(possibly because of double entry and 2 rds of BB)

I know most of you "Classy" racers look down your noses at bracket cars but I'll bet you my car cost as much as 75% of the class cars out there, maybe more. There are a lot of cars out there that are double what mine cost too.

I do both. I bracket race. I run IHRA races. I've owned Stockers, HR-SST, SR-SG, QR-SC
Cars and none of them are cheap.
Chip Johnson


Chip, I am an old bracket racer who likes to tinker and make stuff fly. That is why I took on the Performance Based Eliminator, (Stock) and SS. There isn't anyone I know who looks down their nose at bracket racers. I know quite a few (Classy Racers) that have had their tail handed to them by a good bracket racer. Out here I have not seen double entry with the same car and I don't think buy back either but I could be wrong. North, South, East and West face the same problems, MONEY and lack of work. There are a bunch of stock /ss racers here who will frequent the local bracket programs to tune up on driving. My hat is off to Kyle and Peter for trying to get the Big Bucks bracket programs up and running strong on the West Coast. Participation seems to be the biggest issue and it's not just Class Racing. I have seen local associations pay big first round money, traveling money, points for travel and several other ways all without drawing more cars.... Lack of money and higher priorities? You tell me? I don't think they are excuses Chip, I think it is reality and priority.

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Old 07-05-2010, 05:33 PM   #6
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Maybe health aside, I think even the non money problems could be solved with money ha. Of course it might be a little boring if we all had CJs now wouldnt it? Ha.
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:48 PM   #7
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Of course it might be a little boring if we all had CJs now wouldnt it? Ha.
Then again it could be more exciting because all of the runs would be HEADS UP (after combining the sticks and automatics together) and flat out.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:28 PM   #8
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Chip, I am an old bracket racer who likes to tinker and make stuff fly. That is why I took on the Performance Based Eliminator, (Stock) and SS. There isn't anyone I know who looks down their nose at bracket racers. I know quite a few (Classy Racers) that have had their tail handed to them by a good bracket racer. Out here I have not seen double entry with the same car and I don't think buy back either but I could be wrong. North, South, East and West face the same problems, MONEY and lack of work. There are a bunch of stock /ss racers here who will frequent the local bracket programs to tune up on driving. My hat is off to Kyle and Peter for trying to get the Big Bucks bracket programs up and running strong on the West Coast. Participation seems to be the biggest issue and it's not just Class Racing. I have seen local associations pay big first round money, traveling money, points for travel and several other ways all without drawing more cars.... Lack of money and higher priorities? You tell me? I don't think they are excuses Chip, I think it is reality and priority.

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Barry, I have to disagree with youir statement about bracket racer vs class racers.......I haven't found a class racer yet that has any regard for bracket racer, hell, I raced in NSS and was look down upon because I wasn't a REAL racer even though NSS isn't bracket racing like class racing is.

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Old 07-09-2010, 04:45 PM   #9
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It's the economy and over inflated cost of living. I was working on getting my LeBaron ready to race again, but ran into severel heavy hitting financial binds. I decided to mothball the car until times get better. It may be a while......
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Old 07-10-2010, 03:09 PM   #10
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Barry, I have to disagree with youir statement about bracket racer vs class racers.......I haven't found a class racer yet that has any regard for bracket racer, hell, I raced in NSS and was look down upon because I wasn't a REAL racer even though NSS isn't bracket racing like class racing is.

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Yeah I know there are a few. We both know there are a lot of bracket racers in S/SS now. They gamble on not getting a heads up and that's fine. Bracket racing lets me get more seat time and hone the tree. I could care less if they like me or not. Most are intimidated knowing stockers can be deadly consistant.


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