Getting Started in Class Racing

Chad Rhodes · 07-22-2010, 11:35 AM

hopefully Evan Smith will chime in here, he knows a ton about the fox body stockers. The fox body mustangs can be very good stockers for sure, but there is alot to learn. the best advice I can give you is to go to a divisional race and talk to some people. you'd be surprised how friendly and willing to help most class racers are. we all bicker back and forth on here quite a bit, but most of us would loan parts to the guy we had to race next round, just the way it is. Also, you can pick up a lot more talking with people when there is a stocker nearby to look at, than just generalizing over the internet.

Alan is also right, we're all nuts for doing this. But we do it because its a challenge. Another few things to remember about stock eliminator; Its like going to a magic show, what you see is amazing, but what you don't see is even more so. Also there is a lot of reading between the lines in the rulebook. Not from a legal vs no legal standpoint, but if you read the rule book and built a motor that fit the rules, but wasn't done with some assistance from people who know something about stock racing, you might be disappointed in the initial performance.

Bob Pagano · 07-22-2010, 11:38 AM

Are you an NHRA member ? If so you can download the rule book on their site.

Chris1529 · 07-22-2010, 12:35 PM

Is your car an LX or a GT? Its NHRA rated at 220HP

Here are the classes your car fits

stock if LX
M/SA 14*220+170=3250#
you could also run L or N. add or subtract 110#

stock if GT
O/SA 15*220+170 =3470#
n-subtract 110#, P add 220# (goes to 1# weight break after O/SA)

need full interior including dash, correct seats, C-4 is about your only choice for trans, 9" max wide tire, heads and intake and cam that will pass, also need a valve to drain fuel so you can provide tech a fuel sample after the run. If you are going to run the stock bottom end, I'd at least get a good SFI balancer. If not, I'd get an engine diaper.

Fred Popov · 07-22-2010, 01:00 PM

You can view the IHRA Rulebook here:

http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/...on/?m=1203&l=1

John Quinn · 07-22-2010, 01:00 PM

If you've installed a tubular K-member you will have to put the stock one back in.

The Hitman · 07-23-2010, 08:00 AM

Awesome information,

the reason im going with the fox mustangs is because I have great consistant cars, and plenty of back up parts.

I seen some class racing and I really enjoyed it and thought it would be fun.
My cars both have cages, both and racing seats, all the safety equipment and no junk.
and the vert is heavy...

Im subscribed to this thread.

treessavoy · 07-25-2010, 08:59 PM

Go out in your backyard and dig a 6 foot hole and put all your money in it along with a second mortage, cover up and water and next spring you'll have a Stocker!

JimR

The Hitman · 05-13-2011, 01:30 PM

Nice LOL...

Im currently still wanting to do this badly although I am having great luck foot brake racing right now..

Im currently looking at a 1988 Mercury Cougar...

but need to see if that chassis is excepted.

Chris1529 · 05-13-2011, 02:37 PM

Yes... The Cougar is in the NHRA Stock Car Classification guide.

Philip Saran · 05-17-2011, 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=The Hitman;199915]Awesome information,
the reason im going with the fox mustangs is because I have great consistant cars, and plenty of back up parts.
I seen some class racing and I really enjoyed it and thought it would be fun.
My cars both have cages, both and racing seats, all the safety equipment and no junk.
and the vert is heavy...>

Hitman,

One item that was not mentioned was if your two Mustangs have cages
and you have bars running into the engine compartment, that car would
NOT be legal for Stock Eliminator since the rule book states no part of
the roll bar/cage is to pass forward of the firewall. Only allowed in SS.

07-22-2010, 11:35 AM	#1
Chad Rhodes VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL Posts: 2,375 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing hopefully Evan Smith will chime in here, he knows a ton about the fox body stockers. The fox body mustangs can be very good stockers for sure, but there is alot to learn. the best advice I can give you is to go to a divisional race and talk to some people. you'd be surprised how friendly and willing to help most class racers are. we all bicker back and forth on here quite a bit, but most of us would loan parts to the guy we had to race next round, just the way it is. Also, you can pick up a lot more talking with people when there is a stocker nearby to look at, than just generalizing over the internet. Alan is also right, we're all nuts for doing this. But we do it because its a challenge. Another few things to remember about stock eliminator; Its like going to a magic show, what you see is amazing, but what you don't see is even more so. Also there is a lot of reading between the lines in the rulebook. Not from a legal vs no legal standpoint, but if you read the rule book and built a motor that fit the rules, but wasn't done with some assistance from people who know something about stock racing, you might be disappointed in the initial performance. __________________ Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA

07-22-2010, 11:38 AM	#2
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 240 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing Are you an NHRA member ? If so you can download the rule book on their site. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

07-22-2010, 12:35 PM	#3
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing Is your car an LX or a GT? Its NHRA rated at 220HP Here are the classes your car fits stock if LX M/SA 14220+170=3250# you could also run L or N. add or subtract 110# stock if GT O/SA 15220+170 =3470# n-subtract 110#, P add 220# (goes to 1# weight break after O/SA) need full interior including dash, correct seats, C-4 is about your only choice for trans, 9" max wide tire, heads and intake and cam that will pass, also need a valve to drain fuel so you can provide tech a fuel sample after the run. If you are going to run the stock bottom end, I'd at least get a good SFI balancer. If not, I'd get an engine diaper. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

07-22-2010, 01:00 PM	#4
Fred Popov Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 64 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing You can view the IHRA Rulebook here: http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/...on/?m=1203&l=1

07-22-2010, 01:00 PM	#5
John Quinn Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bison, KS Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing If you've installed a tubular K-member you will have to put the stock one back in. __________________ Stock - 5013

07-23-2010, 08:00 AM	#6
The Hitman Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 35 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing Awesome information, the reason im going with the fox mustangs is because I have great consistant cars, and plenty of back up parts. I seen some class racing and I really enjoyed it and thought it would be fun. My cars both have cages, both and racing seats, all the safety equipment and no junk. and the vert is heavy... Im subscribed to this thread. __________________ SFV Motorsports IHRA MX36 Dan "The Hitman"

07-25-2010, 08:59 PM	#7
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing Go out in your backyard and dig a 6 foot hole and put all your money in it along with a second mortage, cover up and water and next spring you'll have a Stocker! JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

05-13-2011, 01:30 PM	#8
The Hitman Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 35 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing Nice LOL... Im currently still wanting to do this badly although I am having great luck foot brake racing right now.. Im currently looking at a 1988 Mercury Cougar... but need to see if that chassis is excepted. __________________ SFV Motorsports IHRA MX36 Dan "The Hitman"

05-13-2011, 02:37 PM	#9
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing Yes... The Cougar is in the NHRA Stock Car Classification guide. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

05-17-2011, 05:56 PM	#10
Philip Saran Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Parker, CO. Posts: 728 Likes: 165 Liked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Getting Started in Class Racing [QUOTE=The Hitman;199915]Awesome information, the reason im going with the fox mustangs is because I have great consistant cars, and plenty of back up parts. I seen some class racing and I really enjoyed it and thought it would be fun. My cars both have cages, both and racing seats, all the safety equipment and no junk. and the vert is heavy...> Hitman, One item that was not mentioned was if your two Mustangs have cages and you have bars running into the engine compartment, that car would NOT be legal for Stock Eliminator since the rule book states no part of the roll bar/cage is to pass forward of the firewall. Only allowed in SS. __________________ Phil Saran Parker, Colorado