Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning

FED 387 · 08-12-2010, 09:27 AM

It seems to me that this is an area that the different racing assoc. need to get involved. Whether it be IHRA,NHRA,NASCAR or what ever ALL racers utilizing these types of vehicles need to have these orginazations go to bat for them and get some wording in the statutes regarding motorhomes and trailers being towed by motorhomes. A CDL should not be needed in the average case maybe when you start getting into the 70-85 foot range different rules apply but not for some schmuck in a 30 Ft Winnebago towing a 24 Ft trailer. Comp 387

Bob Pagano · 08-12-2010, 09:52 AM

Track Operators need to step up, they are the ones that will be hurt in the long run. It took a track owner in NC (Earwood) to start things rolling, NASCAR followed suit along with other tracks. Racers on there own will not be heard, track owners making less income due to a poor turn out have a louder voice due to less income = less taxes to the state. The states need a permit, they will make more that way then time spent writing tickets. None race motorhomes pull a car behind so it also has its effects on tourism. I live near I-20 in TX and 90% of the motorhomes are pulling a car or trailer.

BlueOval Ralph · 08-12-2010, 11:12 AM

So get ready from what I have heard from the Indiana State police ther will be a full court press on vehicles coming to US Nationals as I have been told their limt for Motor Home & Trailer is 60 foot.
Ralph

John Lang · 08-12-2010, 12:36 PM

Blue Oval Ralph,,,,,, I stopped at a weigh station in Indiana, I-94 just past the Mich line ,with my motorhome and trailer, (73.5 ft ) , where i asked them about the length law and was told that they have more important things to do than mess with every Motorhome pulling a trailer ! End of story, and I left, was told to have a safe trip.......John

njk53 · 08-12-2010, 01:34 PM

What an officer at a weigh station says and what the state police on the road will do can be very different.

Due to the economy and tax revenue loss of all states, you can bet the state troopers will be out in full force for Indy so, beware.

We have a city in Metro Detroit that has been accused by the U. S Department of Justice for writing tickets as a means of producing revenue.
In 2009 they wrote approx. 43,000 tickets and the year prior wrote 29,000.
How can you deny you aren't writing tickets for revenue, but the city officials certainly did.

Mike Gardner · 08-12-2010, 02:59 PM

Thanks Scott for the info. Glad we dont go to Mich.

Pete Beau · 08-12-2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njk53

What an officer at a weigh station says and what the state police on the road will do can be very different.

Due to the economy and tax revenue loss of all states, you can bet the state troopers will be out in full force for Indy so, beware.

We have a city in Metro Detroit that has been accused by the U. S Department of Justice for writing tickets as a means of producing revenue.
In 2009 they wrote approx. 43,000 tickets and the year prior wrote 29,000.
How can you deny you aren't writing tickets for revenue, but the city officials certainly did.

How about 8 mile between Harper & I-94. For those that don't think there are ticket quotas drive through that stretch at the end of the month. That area is noted in one of those known speed trap books.

Mackie Family Racing · 08-12-2010, 06:42 PM

Real-Time Update to my Update:

Gents -- just had a call from Ricky Adkins on his way to the IHRA national event in Martin, MI. Said he heard from Kenny Underwood -- and Kenny had been pulled over in TJ Coughlin's rig just outside of Jackson, MI. The female DOT officer nailed him for no CDL, overlength -- and a third violation which Ricky couldn't remember. Worst all of, she made them pull the rig to an impound lot, and unhook... trailer is still sitting there, apparently.

Sounds like it's going to get worse before it gets better

srm

BlueOval Ralph · 08-12-2010, 03:34 PM

That's one weight station and one officer, What will happen when they are ordered to do so by the higher up's. It's anybody's guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lang

Blue Oval Ralph,,,,,, I stopped at a weigh station in Indiana, I-94 just past the Mich line ,with my motorhome and trailer, (73.5 ft ) , where i asked them about the length law and was told that they have more important things to do than mess with every Motorhome pulling a trailer ! End of story, and I left, was told to have a safe trip.......John

Rick Bailey · 08-12-2010, 03:54 PM

Well if this is going to be the case for Indy.......they will be able to write up about 80 % of ALL the racers.

The state law is 60' for Indiana.

I'm 64' 5'' . With a 27' m/h and a 32' trl. I'm busted.

If there is a mass ticket party by enforcement prior to the event, I would hope that all the racers that got poped would get together at ORP. As to how to handle it ...? Maybe everyone refusing to pay ?

And another thought ! I 'd bet almost all the m/h's and trl's were manifactured in Indiana too !

It's not the Hoosier state..........It would be the Hoser state ! lol lol

Rick Bailey...........64' 5"

08-12-2010, 09:27 AM	#1
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,429 Likes: 563 Liked 336 Times in 183 Posts	Re: Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning It seems to me that this is an area that the different racing assoc. need to get involved. Whether it be IHRA,NHRA,NASCAR or what ever ALL racers utilizing these types of vehicles need to have these orginazations go to bat for them and get some wording in the statutes regarding motorhomes and trailers being towed by motorhomes. A CDL should not be needed in the average case maybe when you start getting into the 70-85 foot range different rules apply but not for some schmuck in a 30 Ft Winnebago towing a 24 Ft trailer. Comp 387

08-12-2010, 09:52 AM	#2
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 249 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning Track Operators need to step up, they are the ones that will be hurt in the long run. It took a track owner in NC (Earwood) to start things rolling, NASCAR followed suit along with other tracks. Racers on there own will not be heard, track owners making less income due to a poor turn out have a louder voice due to less income = less taxes to the state. The states need a permit, they will make more that way then time spent writing tickets. None race motorhomes pull a car behind so it also has its effects on tourism. I live near I-20 in TX and 90% of the motorhomes are pulling a car or trailer. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

08-12-2010, 11:12 AM	#3
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning So get ready from what I have heard from the Indiana State police ther will be a full court press on vehicles coming to US Nationals as I have been told their limt for Motor Home & Trailer is 60 foot. Ralph

08-12-2010, 12:36 PM	#4
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning Blue Oval Ralph,,,,,, I stopped at a weigh station in Indiana, I-94 just past the Mich line ,with my motorhome and trailer, (73.5 ft ) , where i asked them about the length law and was told that they have more important things to do than mess with every Motorhome pulling a trailer ! End of story, and I left, was told to have a safe trip.......John __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

08-12-2010, 01:34 PM	#5
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning What an officer at a weigh station says and what the state police on the road will do can be very different. Due to the economy and tax revenue loss of all states, you can bet the state troopers will be out in full force for Indy so, beware. We have a city in Metro Detroit that has been accused by the U. S Department of Justice for writing tickets as a means of producing revenue. In 2009 they wrote approx. 43,000 tickets and the year prior wrote 29,000. How can you deny you aren't writing tickets for revenue, but the city officials certainly did. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

08-12-2010, 02:59 PM	#6
Mike Gardner Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 136 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning Thanks Scott for the info. Glad we dont go to Mich.

08-12-2010, 06:42 PM	#8
Mackie Family Racing Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 179 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning Real-Time Update to my Update: Gents -- just had a call from Ricky Adkins on his way to the IHRA national event in Martin, MI. Said he heard from Kenny Underwood -- and Kenny had been pulled over in TJ Coughlin's rig just outside of Jackson, MI. The female DOT officer nailed him for no CDL, overlength -- and a third violation which Ricky couldn't remember. Worst all of, she made them pull the rig to an impound lot, and unhook... trailer is still sitting there, apparently. Sounds like it's going to get worse before it gets better srm

08-12-2010, 03:54 PM	#10
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning Well if this is going to be the case for Indy.......they will be able to write up about 80 % of ALL the racers. The state law is 60' for Indiana. I'm 64' 5'' . With a 27' m/h and a 32' trl. I'm busted. If there is a mass ticket party by enforcement prior to the event, I would hope that all the racers that got poped would get together at ORP. As to how to handle it ...? Maybe everyone refusing to pay ? And another thought ! I 'd bet almost all the m/h's and trl's were manifactured in Indiana too ! It's not the Hoosier state..........It would be the Hoser state ! lol lol Rick Bailey...........64' 5" __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC Last edited by Rick Bailey; 08-12-2010 at 03:57 PM.