1.41 under in Stock - Page 3

SS Engine Guy · 05-25-2007, 02:02 AM

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p.s my opinion AHFS is a result of NHRA embarrassed when we go 1-40 under thier bunny *** indexes.

Jack, I will agree with every statement that you made. All good points as usual !

I have to differ with your last opinion only. I would change it to read:

AHFS is a result of NHRA embarrassed when we go 1-40 under their bunny *** HP factors on some combos.

Also, as you and another poster pointed out in stock is the valve spring rule. That along with the massaged intake ports/chambers is what allowed the bigger gains. Either or both would be pretty easy to eliminate. The heads are illegal anyway supposedly, so no loss there. This all started when it became standard policy to change a rule instead of toss a competitor/builder for a year.

roadrunnerrunner · 05-31-2007, 12:49 AM

Thank You Mr. Beard

Sean Kennedy · 05-31-2007, 06:00 AM

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What does lowering the indexes accomplish? Nothing but keeping the low-buck guys out of the class. The fast guys are still the fast guys. It doesn't matter if you call it -1.40 under, -1.00 under or -.50 under, an ET is an ET.

It would (maybe.. with an unchanged -1.15 or more under for a rewiew) show us if cars and combos are reasonable fair classified anymore..maybe the racers would want to have national records again...i mean dont set them with a ridiculous speeds or something else....and keeping the lowbucks outta the class??..low bucks guys maybe should rethink being in this high buck "bracket class"or find alternative ways like Yaca,shaw leong and others...otherwise it should be a chance for most to run regular bracketraces at closer tracks for those who dont like to spend money this way......flame away..

So because im a young and broke, i'm not good enough to run in stock?

Because my car is legal as hell, I shouoldn't be aloud to run in Stock?

You are saying that low budget cars somehow dong belong in this class?

Dont want any of them poor folk in your nice country club.

Doesnt matter, i'm not going to flame. But your comments are extremely offensive. At least i post on here with my real name. Come tell me to my face the next time i can afford to race, that i dont belong.

Jack McCarthy · 05-31-2007, 10:00 AM

sean,

i mean no disrespect to anyone...however if you are young and broke there are ways to compete in stock inexpensively... talk to jim wahl, mark yacavone, bob shaw etc...

these guys have completely LEGAL cars that always qualify in the top ten... WHY ? because they use thier heads instead of thier wallets.

and not to piss anyone off... if you cant run -50 on these indexes you need some mentoring... they are that EASY.
technology AND NHRA's rules gift shop have rendered the old indexes almost ignorant to anyone with a stock / ss background.

still my opinion, its mine and some may not agree... but many do !

captain jack

bsa633 · 05-31-2007, 10:37 AM

It is my "noname" opinion that it should be harder to run way under the index then it is now...either that you factor combinations were they should be...improved tech like enginessguy mentioned may be worth something.and is needed..but that aint gonna happen so the only option to sqare things out a little right now is to lower indexes somewhat..may be one way to really se what the combos are capable of beacuse now most racers dont care about the record anymore,the hard work is only gonna render in more lead in the car,10 years ago the record meant everything to a true classracer!!! Sean..sorry if you took it personal but all people cant afford this type of racing if they want a upperclass car or choose a heavy populated class,like i cant afford pro stock,but this is classracing...not bracketracing...and there are low buck alternatives if you look and IHRA has Pure Stock! This is gonna be my "noname" opinion as long as i do this!!! look at the div 1 race,27 didnt get to race in stock...if you took .30 off the indexes..almost all still would have gotten to dial under if they have raced...so whats the point....that you can come in with a rentalcar and make some rounds if your own car broke or some other snag???

05-31-2007, 10:00 AM	#24
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 477 Times in 117 Posts	sean, i mean no disrespect to anyone...however if you are young and broke there are ways to compete in stock inexpensively... talk to jim wahl, mark yacavone, bob shaw etc... these guys have completely LEGAL cars that always qualify in the top ten... WHY ? because they use thier heads instead of thier wallets. and not to piss anyone off... if you cant run -50 on these indexes you need some mentoring... they are that EASY. technology AND NHRA's rules gift shop have rendered the old indexes almost ignorant to anyone with a stock / ss background. still my opinion, its mine and some may not agree... but many do ! captain jack __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

05-31-2007, 12:49 AM	#22
roadrunnerrunner Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ocala, Florida Posts: 23 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank You Mr. Beard

05-31-2007, 10:37 AM	#25
bsa633 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 310 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It is my "noname" opinion that it should be harder to run way under the index then it is now...either that you factor combinations were they should be...improved tech like enginessguy mentioned may be worth something.and is needed..but that aint gonna happen so the only option to sqare things out a little right now is to lower indexes somewhat..may be one way to really se what the combos are capable of beacuse now most racers dont care about the record anymore,the hard work is only gonna render in more lead in the car,10 years ago the record meant everything to a true classracer!!! Sean..sorry if you took it personal but all people cant afford this type of racing if they want a upperclass car or choose a heavy populated class,like i cant afford pro stock,but this is classracing...not bracketracing...and there are low buck alternatives if you look and IHRA has Pure Stock! This is gonna be my "noname" opinion as long as i do this!!! look at the div 1 race,27 didnt get to race in stock...if you took .30 off the indexes..almost all still would have gotten to dial under if they have raced...so whats the point....that you can come in with a rentalcar and make some rounds if your own car broke or some other snag???