69 camaro value?

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Dave Ley

Go right to the expert , Jerry MacNeish , he is the foremost authority on Camaro's and has written several books about them.

Dave -- You're spot on .........Jerry is the most knowledgeable person I've ever met on these cars .As you know I've been a '69 Camaro owner since 1969 and he amazes me with the things he keeps pointing out .As for books he has written -- none finer for sure as he is the expert everyone seeks out .And he's right here on our board ..................z28camaroman .

[rayfin]

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I was just reading about Jerry.

[Michael Kilduff]

Dick,
The place to go online for anything related to first generation Camaros is www.camaros.net
There is even a member ot 2 that worked on the assembly line where camaros were being produced back then that offer a lot of information about these cars.

Many camaro experts reside there and can provide you with pretty accurate evaluations of what a first generation camaro is worth. There is a forum there titled' What's It Worth', and posting pictures is recommended for a better approximation on the worth of one of these cars.

In response to some posts about deciphering certain Camaros as to how they came equipped from the factory the 1967 model is certainly the easiest by reading the trim tag and VIN. Certain alpha numeric codes were used for SS, RS, and options.

The 68 model is the hardest to decipher. The information on the TT was reduced and only someone presenting full documentation or certain clues will offer data to verify if a car was an SS or a Z-28 or a base model car.

The 69 model started out in the same boat as the 68 in regards to the info on the TT. After a few months the Norwood OH produced cars had 'X-codes' which helps to determine what a certain car came equipped with.

For instance the X-22 was a 396 SS with alot of styling trim, the x-33 was a dressed up Z-28, the X-44 was a base model car, the X-55 was a 350 SS, the X-66 was a 396 SS without much dress up trim and the X-77 was a z-28 without much styling trim.
The X-11 throws a curveball in the mess as about 10% of them were SS 350 models.

Many COPO 427 camaros in 69 came with the X-44 tag although they represented a small percentage of actuall X-44 cars. Not all COPO 427 cars were X-44 however.

None of the Los Angeles (Van Nuys plant) '69s had X-codes.

Beware that these tags are being faked and some unscrupulous people are taking valueable trim tags off of junked cars and putting them on base model cars. Some ways to tell a tag has been faked or put on another car can be done by scrutinizing the dum dum used or what options allegedly came with the car and then verifying when the factory actually started using that option or that certain tagged part.

www.camaros.org is a fantastic place to go online to help decipher certain codes on engines, rears, X-codes and etc.

I would disagree with who ever said not to buy one of these cars that had some or most or all of the panels replaced. Nothing could be worse than buying a car for 20k plus or more just to have the paint or bodywork srart to come unglued after a year or so.
I have a X-55 (hugger orange, AC,4speed 350 SS) and a X-77 Z-28 , I bought both cars in certain stages of metal replacement so I could finish them and know what I have.

I can't say all of what I posted above is 100% correct, but it should be pretty close. Anyone buying a 'numbers' type of first generation Camaro would certainly serve themselves well by purchasing one or more of Jerry's books, or hiring him for his services.

[Dick Butler]

Great thoughts. As for Numbers matching , that isnt my goal. As for RARE original my banker and I as still healing from the purchase of the fantom Z-11 car that vaporized after the money was paid. ( the seller has another year of shall we say "confinement") but I dont have the money.
I want a nice looking car with a BB. and no rust. Reallly good suggestions and I will take them to heart as I decide. Thanks.
Dick

[FINESPLINE]

Interesting car in terms of class versis car representation. The car is dressed as a Z/28 as we all know came with a 302 sbc. I believe a 1969 camaro with the 302 falls into E/S yet this car clearly is classified as a A/SA. There are only 396 and 427 bbc in that class. The only cars to come through with the cowl induction hood was a Z/28 or the COPO 9560-9561 cars. If it is a 396/375 L78 L89 it has wrong the hood . I thought the car still had to fit the engine option as it was offered from the factory ? Also 1969 Z/28 non RS cars had argent silver grills even though many have been replaced with black. Don't get me wrong , Jim's car is beautiful -just a bit confusing to those who not in the know !

[Jeff Lee]

Finespline,
It's very common that owners ad Z-28 emblems even though the car is clearly not a Z-28. I'm sure Chevrolet has produced 50:1 emblems per actual Camaro Z-28 produced!
Cowl hoods were also on Z-10 & Z-11 '69 Camaro's as standard issue and others can show that they were also available on just about everything else.
Bottom line, NHRA accepts it.

[Joe Martens]

Finespline, the L-78 was available with the cowl induction hood. I have one to prove it, with documentation!!!

[FINESPLINE]

I forgot about the Indy pace cars with the standard cowl induction hood. Joe , you are right as after a certain date of the build year , ZL-2 hoods were available on any V-8. Which made it retroactive to the beginning of the build year. I was wrong !! That had to be the best selling hood chevy ever sold as a option or over the counter. Has anybody measured any difference ET wise from flat hood to cowl hood ?--------John