Is it time to fix Super Class Racing?

Chris Williams · 08-22-2010, 04:01 PM

Perhaps the answer to all of this is to just bag index racing, and go with full-tree brackets all the way. Here's a straw man proposal:

Set up four (five, six?) bracket classes: 7s, 8s, 9s, and 10s. Those are qualifying times (7.99 or better, 8.99 or better...). If you run better than the class number (e.g. run a 7.99 or better in the 8s class), you're forced down a class, except in the 7s class where it's all out. It would be all electronics invited, all body styles, all engine combinations.

Want to run a stop cause you think it makes you more consistent? Go for it. Want to run a dragster with a snowmobile engine in the 10s class? Knock yourself out. Your daughter wants to put fatty slicks on the front of her Civic and run in the 9s class? She can.

By having different classes, you limit the possibility of the big $/HP/MPH person zooming up on you. They'd probably get pushed down a class. By having enough classes to satisfy everyone, no one has to go home. And by everyone (except the super class holdout) leaving hard and racing hard to the stripe, the fans get it.

I dunno, it's a start. I like pro-tree index racing. But this is a way to make it work for the stop-haters?

chebby2 · 08-22-2010, 04:32 PM

This is fun.

Chris Williams · 08-22-2010, 04:58 PM

I'll repeat it if you didn't hear it the first time: a breakout MPH is a really, really dumb idea. Run WFO, but not that fast. Drag Race as fast as you can, but there's a speed limit.

As dumb as you apparently think stops are, a speed limit is 10x as dumb. You think it's hard to explain throttle stop racing to a casual fan, imagine how ridiculous and effeminate you'd feel telling people there's a speed limit at the drag strips. All because you're afraid of being beaten up by the big kid. Ugh...

Bob Verwold · 08-22-2010, 05:12 PM

I think the really,really dumb idea of the MPH wouldn't any harder to explain than running an .899 and loosing ...........

JMatt · 08-22-2010, 05:06 PM

Perhaps look at it another way:

What does a door car do between Top Sportsman and Super Stock in the NHRA?

What does ANY tube chassis car run in the NHRA except Top Sportsman (other than Comp, which is a whole different $$$ committment.)

There's lots of cars out there slower than 7.00 that would love to run. If Super Gas and Super Street throttle stop racing isn't the answer, then what is?

NHRA Unleashed.

Bill Baer · 08-22-2010, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chebby2

This is fun.

Yep lots of points of view ("lotsa of ways to skin a cat" too)

08-22-2010, 04:01 PM	#1
Chris Williams Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 401 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? Perhaps the answer to all of this is to just bag index racing, and go with full-tree brackets all the way. Here's a straw man proposal: Set up four (five, six?) bracket classes: 7s, 8s, 9s, and 10s. Those are qualifying times (7.99 or better, 8.99 or better...). If you run better than the class number (e.g. run a 7.99 or better in the 8s class), you're forced down a class, except in the 7s class where it's all out. It would be all electronics invited, all body styles, all engine combinations. Want to run a stop cause you think it makes you more consistent? Go for it. Want to run a dragster with a snowmobile engine in the 10s class? Knock yourself out. Your daughter wants to put fatty slicks on the front of her Civic and run in the 9s class? She can. By having different classes, you limit the possibility of the big $/HP/MPH person zooming up on you. They'd probably get pushed down a class. By having enough classes to satisfy everyone, no one has to go home. And by everyone (except the super class holdout) leaving hard and racing hard to the stripe, the fans get it. I dunno, it's a start. I like pro-tree index racing. But this is a way to make it work for the stop-haters? __________________ Chris Williams 6304 SC, TD, ET

08-22-2010, 04:32 PM	#2
chebby2 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 256 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? This is fun.

08-22-2010, 04:58 PM	#3
Chris Williams Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 401 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? I'll repeat it if you didn't hear it the first time: a breakout MPH is a really, really dumb idea. Run WFO, but not that fast. Drag Race as fast as you can, but there's a speed limit. As dumb as you apparently think stops are, a speed limit is 10x as dumb. You think it's hard to explain throttle stop racing to a casual fan, imagine how ridiculous and effeminate you'd feel telling people there's a speed limit at the drag strips. All because you're afraid of being beaten up by the big kid. Ugh... __________________ Chris Williams 6304 SC, TD, ET

08-22-2010, 05:12 PM	#4
Bob Verwold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville Ohio Posts: 656 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? I think the really,really dumb idea of the MPH wouldn't any harder to explain than running an .899 and loosing ...........

08-22-2010, 05:06 PM	#5
JMatt Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it time to fix Super Class Racing? Perhaps look at it another way: What does a door car do between Top Sportsman and Super Stock in the NHRA? What does ANY tube chassis car run in the NHRA except Top Sportsman (other than Comp, which is a whole different $$$ committment.) There's lots of cars out there slower than 7.00 that would love to run. If Super Gas and Super Street throttle stop racing isn't the answer, then what is? NHRA Unleashed.