Lack of integrity

Steve1118 · 09-03-2010, 11:25 AM

Now, I don't have a dog in this fight (I'm a NSS racer), but I certainly see everyone's point.

However, I must point out that there is more outside interest in Stock Eliminator now than there has been in many, many, years, and the CJ's and the DP's are responsible for it. They've increased the exposure of Stock Eliminator racing in a way that would never have been done had the factorys not gotten involved to this level. I know, personally, that for the first time in years I've been paying attention to what is going on in classes other than SS/AH.

Now, I'm a Nostalgia guy, through and through, but I realize that there is a limit on the number of folks that relate to my forty five year old Dodge hardtop, but the youngsters go gaga over the new Challengers and Mustangs. It's a generational thing. Although we get a good spectator count at a lot of the NSS races, there is a limited number of Gen Xers (?) in the stands. That is a fact.

I am an old Hemi guy, and, to me, a naturally aspirated 426 is in a class of itself. But, I do realize that the engine is 46 years old, and I think everyone has to be thankful that all this old musclecar technology has remained dominant as long as it has.

Although it's tough to take, I think that the natural progession of things has happened, like it or not. Just food for thought.

novassdude · 09-03-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1118

However, I must point out that there is more outside interest in Stock Eliminator now than there has been in many, many, years, and the CJ's and the DP's are responsible for it. They've increased the exposure of Stock Eliminator racing in a way that would never have been done had the factorys not gotten involved to this level. I know, personally, that for the first time in years I've been paying attention to what is going on in classes other than SS/AH.

This maybe true but I believe that they would have gotten the same outside attention if they were factored correctly. Most are not against the cars being here. Just the joke of a rating that was put on the motors. That and the fact that you can not get many of those motors in a true production car.

Michael Beard · 09-03-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by novassdude

This maybe true but I believe that they would have gotten the same outside attention if they were factored correctly. Most are not against the cars being here. Just the joke of a rating that was put on the motors. That and the fact that you can not get many of those motors in a true production car.

x2!

Jack McCarthy · 09-03-2010, 02:46 PM

they would get a HELL of a lot more attention in a special class AFX / BFX / CFX and run em heads up ... let the $$$$$$$$$$ compete there not with us !!!!

captain jack

davidhuff · 09-03-2010, 03:25 PM

I see every ones point of view and understand it cost $100,000 plus to build a new CJ or DP and understand that it is not cheap to race in those classes.What do you guys think John Calverts A/S FAIRLANE is worth?I am sure this is no cheap ride.

Ed Carpenter · 09-03-2010, 03:37 PM

Can you go to the showroom and buy one of these CJ/DP? The reason I ask is if you can't that is called a crate motor. We all know how much NHRA guys hate crate motor cars!! LOL

I don't know that's why I'm asking.

W J · 09-03-2010, 03:51 PM

While we're on the subject, how much do you think it costs to put one of the SS/AH cars together?? And how close do you think these cars are parts-wise and spec-wise (suspension pieces, etc.) to the originals? Showroom floor?? Yeah, right....Leave the new cars alone....they're creating a ton of interest and bringing more people into the stands to watch stock and superstock racing than you've had there for 20 years.....there's a place for NEW and OLD in this sport. "Feed them and let them all run." WJ

09-03-2010, 11:25 AM	#1
Steve1118 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Walton's Mountain Posts: 116 Likes: 2 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Lack of integrity Now, I don't have a dog in this fight (I'm a NSS racer), but I certainly see everyone's point. However, I must point out that there is more outside interest in Stock Eliminator now than there has been in many, many, years, and the CJ's and the DP's are responsible for it. They've increased the exposure of Stock Eliminator racing in a way that would never have been done had the factorys not gotten involved to this level. I know, personally, that for the first time in years I've been paying attention to what is going on in classes other than SS/AH. Now, I'm a Nostalgia guy, through and through, but I realize that there is a limit on the number of folks that relate to my forty five year old Dodge hardtop, but the youngsters go gaga over the new Challengers and Mustangs. It's a generational thing. Although we get a good spectator count at a lot of the NSS races, there is a limited number of Gen Xers (?) in the stands. That is a fact. I am an old Hemi guy, and, to me, a naturally aspirated 426 is in a class of itself. But, I do realize that the engine is 46 years old, and I think everyone has to be thankful that all this old musclecar technology has remained dominant as long as it has. Although it's tough to take, I think that the natural progession of things has happened, like it or not. Just food for thought.

09-03-2010, 02:46 PM	#4
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,327 Likes: 30 Liked 511 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Lack of integrity they would get a HELL of a lot more attention in a special class AFX / BFX / CFX and run em heads up ... let the $$$$$$$$$$ compete there not with us !!!! captain jack __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

09-03-2010, 03:25 PM	#5
davidhuff Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 928 Likes: 1 Liked 120 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Lack of integrity I see every ones point of view and understand it cost $100,000 plus to build a new CJ or DP and understand that it is not cheap to race in those classes.What do you guys think John Calverts A/S FAIRLANE is worth?I am sure this is no cheap ride.

09-03-2010, 03:37 PM	#6
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,710 Likes: 187 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Lack of integrity Can you go to the showroom and buy one of these CJ/DP? The reason I ask is if you can't that is called a crate motor. We all know how much NHRA guys hate crate motor cars!! LOL I don't know that's why I'm asking. __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

09-03-2010, 03:51 PM	#7
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lack of integrity While we're on the subject, how much do you think it costs to put one of the SS/AH cars together?? And how close do you think these cars are parts-wise and spec-wise (suspension pieces, etc.) to the originals? Showroom floor?? Yeah, right....Leave the new cars alone....they're creating a ton of interest and bringing more people into the stands to watch stock and superstock racing than you've had there for 20 years.....there's a place for NEW and OLD in this sport. "Feed them and let them all run." WJ