US 131 Motorsports Park - Page 2

THE LEGEND · 09-09-2010, 06:41 AM

1) Less money spent on Improvements
2) Less money to host an event
3) Nitro Jam is a track rental
4) A move in hopes of a national is Insane. 3 nationals within 4 hours of the track why would NHRA put another there.
5) Comparing Norwalk's Lucas race to anone else is crazy too. Bader could have a packed house for a Chip vs.Chuckie match race.LOL

Bottom line
National event crazy not to change
Any other event crazy to change.

Phil Veldheer Racing · 09-09-2010, 07:03 AM

I still remember the last NHRA event that I raced at, it was a points meet at Joliet. I took two stockers. I was told where to park and parked there. The next thing I know some NHRA flunkie is yelling what are you parking there for,,,,,etc.....

The next race I was at, was one of my first IHRA National events and I had three people thanking me for coming and handing our team coffee and donuts. I think it was many things but being in the sales business, one thing I did learn from Dale Carnigie was to "show sincere appreciation and mean it" well IHRA did it to this sportsman racer.

Crate Motors do NOT play in my decision. I still have my original steel radiator and three complete NHRA 350 stocker motors. It would be an easy switch for me to go back to NHRA, I think if my young friend, Charlie wants one reason, it would be the people at IHRA and they way they have treated ME, the customer.

I do not like everything about IHRA, but when I weigh all the plus's and minus's of IHRA and NHRA and the people that I deal with at an event, IHRA is the winner.

I am still a member of NHRA since 1965.

Phil

87 442-Top Elim.
87 442-Top Elim.
78 Cutlass Top Elim.
69 Camaro-F/CM
97 Firebird B/FIA
99 Camaro 10.5 tire

Charley Downing · 09-09-2010, 09:11 AM

Everyone talks about how bad they are treated when at a NHRA race. Well that is BS. I race in NHRA Div 3 and could not ask for better Div and Nat event crew Redman, Leo, Donnie B, Rich, Jack, Luke, Tony, Travis and others. These people always go out of their way to help and are fair. Please tell me how it’s you so bad when you come to a NHRA race.
The tech and staff at NHRA and IHRA races are both great, so I don't see that being a point.
Phil the reason parking is not a problem in IHRA is because of a lack of cars. Don't blame NHRA for having over 500 cars at a pts race

Crew Chief · 09-09-2010, 09:14 AM

Coffee and donuts but not much tech. Been there, done that. Would consider going back if they change sanctions.

THE LEGEND · 09-09-2010, 09:17 AM

CD,
I've never run a NHRA race except for the bracket finals, so I don't get a vote. I hear NHRA can be a horse's butt. I also hear they are great never have a problem. I think a lot of the complainers are just that. COMPLAINERS. It don't matter what they are doing or where it's at.
I'm getting ready to have the EXPERIENCE though. I'm leaving today for my first NHRA divisional. I don't expect it to be like IHRA. That would be like comparing McDonalds and Burger king.
I'm really looking forward to going though.

Back to 131 I have a hard time believing they would make more off a NHRA div race than the 3 events they do have. Remember car counts are not the whole ball of wax, but bottom line is.
Chip Johnson
S/ST 2011

Charley Downing · 09-09-2010, 09:49 AM

It is all in how it is or is not promoted. End of story Bill B showed us that this year at Norwalk. Chip you are right there is more BS on the NHRA side as far as tech goes. What pts race are you going to?

Phil Veldheer Racing · 09-09-2010, 10:07 AM

I knew the second I typed in coffee and donuts somebody would bring it up.

If US 131 Switches to NHRA and Mid-Michigan stays NHRA, there is no doubt I would switch.

I have reserved pit spots at US 131 and we are there with race cars every week. The moral of this story is I happen to like IHRA better and believe it or not, the management at US 131 does not care if I like IHRA or NHRA better. They are going to do what ever they can to make a profit or a bigger profit on their investment.

If they do switch to NHRA, Charley, I hope it is you and Brad Z in the SS Final...hows that?

The end, I HOPE. I have to get back to work.

Phil

THE LEGEND · 09-09-2010, 10:44 AM

CD,
Going to Atlanta. Leaving out this evening around 5 or 6 or 10.LOL
I'm going in with an open mind. I really don't think it will be as bad as eveyone makes it out to be. I go to race, so in my opinion should'nt be much difference.
Chip

danny waters sr · 09-09-2010, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

CD,
Going to Atlanta. Leaving out this evening around 5 or 6 or 10.LOL
I'm going in with an open mind. I really don't think it will be as bad as eveyone makes it out to be. I go to race, so in my opinion should'nt be much difference.
Chip

Good Luck Chip. Bring home one o dem Walleys.

Satch Gragg · 09-09-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

CD,
Going to Atlanta. Leaving out this evening around 5 or 6 or 10.LOL
I'm going in with an open mind. I really don't think it will be as bad as eveyone makes it out to be. I go to race, so in my opinion should'nt be much difference.
Chip

Just drive like you did last week at Darlington - You will do great. Satch

09-09-2010, 06:41 AM	#11
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: US 131 Motorsports Park 1) Less money spent on Improvements 2) Less money to host an event 3) Nitro Jam is a track rental 4) A move in hopes of a national is Insane. 3 nationals within 4 hours of the track why would NHRA put another there. 5) Comparing Norwalk's Lucas race to anone else is crazy too. Bader could have a packed house for a Chip vs.Chuckie match race.LOL Bottom line National event crazy not to change Any other event crazy to change.

09-09-2010, 07:03 AM	#12
Phil Veldheer Racing Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Holland, MICHIGAN Posts: 155 Likes: 43 Liked 26 Times in 8 Posts	Re: US 131 Motorsports Park I still remember the last NHRA event that I raced at, it was a points meet at Joliet. I took two stockers. I was told where to park and parked there. The next thing I know some NHRA flunkie is yelling what are you parking there for,,,,,etc..... The next race I was at, was one of my first IHRA National events and I had three people thanking me for coming and handing our team coffee and donuts. I think it was many things but being in the sales business, one thing I did learn from Dale Carnigie was to "show sincere appreciation and mean it" well IHRA did it to this sportsman racer. Crate Motors do NOT play in my decision. I still have my original steel radiator and three complete NHRA 350 stocker motors. It would be an easy switch for me to go back to NHRA, I think if my young friend, Charlie wants one reason, it would be the people at IHRA and they way they have treated ME, the customer. I do not like everything about IHRA, but when I weigh all the plus's and minus's of IHRA and NHRA and the people that I deal with at an event, IHRA is the winner. I am still a member of NHRA since 1965. Phil 87 442-Top Elim. 87 442-Top Elim. 78 Cutlass Top Elim. 69 Camaro-F/CM 97 Firebird B/FIA 99 Camaro 10.5 tire __________________ PHIL VELDHEER 3455 STK IHRA WORLD Record Holder 2007-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16 Last edited by Phil Veldheer Racing; 09-09-2010 at 07:14 AM.

09-09-2010, 09:11 AM	#13
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 762 Likes: 16 Liked 653 Times in 89 Posts	Re: US 131 Motorsports Park Everyone talks about how bad they are treated when at a NHRA race. Well that is BS. I race in NHRA Div 3 and could not ask for better Div and Nat event crew Redman, Leo, Donnie B, Rich, Jack, Luke, Tony, Travis and others. These people always go out of their way to help and are fair. Please tell me how it’s you so bad when you come to a NHRA race. The tech and staff at NHRA and IHRA races are both great, so I don't see that being a point. Phil the reason parking is not a problem in IHRA is because of a lack of cars. Don't blame NHRA for having over 500 cars at a pts race __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 09-09-2010 at 09:17 AM.

09-09-2010, 09:14 AM	#14
Crew Chief Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 184 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: US 131 Motorsports Park Coffee and donuts but not much tech. Been there, done that. Would consider going back if they change sanctions.

09-09-2010, 09:17 AM	#15
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: US 131 Motorsports Park CD, I've never run a NHRA race except for the bracket finals, so I don't get a vote. I hear NHRA can be a horse's butt. I also hear they are great never have a problem. I think a lot of the complainers are just that. COMPLAINERS. It don't matter what they are doing or where it's at. I'm getting ready to have the EXPERIENCE though. I'm leaving today for my first NHRA divisional. I don't expect it to be like IHRA. That would be like comparing McDonalds and Burger king. I'm really looking forward to going though. Back to 131 I have a hard time believing they would make more off a NHRA div race than the 3 events they do have. Remember car counts are not the whole ball of wax, but bottom line is. Chip Johnson S/ST 2011

09-09-2010, 09:49 AM	#16
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 762 Likes: 16 Liked 653 Times in 89 Posts	Re: US 131 Motorsports Park It is all in how it is or is not promoted. End of story Bill B showed us that this year at Norwalk. Chip you are right there is more BS on the NHRA side as far as tech goes. What pts race are you going to? __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

09-09-2010, 10:07 AM	#17
Phil Veldheer Racing Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Holland, MICHIGAN Posts: 155 Likes: 43 Liked 26 Times in 8 Posts	Re: US 131 Motorsports Park I knew the second I typed in coffee and donuts somebody would bring it up. If US 131 Switches to NHRA and Mid-Michigan stays NHRA, there is no doubt I would switch. I have reserved pit spots at US 131 and we are there with race cars every week. The moral of this story is I happen to like IHRA better and believe it or not, the management at US 131 does not care if I like IHRA or NHRA better. They are going to do what ever they can to make a profit or a bigger profit on their investment. If they do switch to NHRA, Charley, I hope it is you and Brad Z in the SS Final...hows that? The end, I HOPE. I have to get back to work. Phil __________________ PHIL VELDHEER 3455 STK IHRA WORLD Record Holder 2007-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16

09-09-2010, 10:44 AM	#18
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: US 131 Motorsports Park CD, Going to Atlanta. Leaving out this evening around 5 or 6 or 10.LOL I'm going in with an open mind. I really don't think it will be as bad as eveyone makes it out to be. I go to race, so in my opinion should'nt be much difference. Chip