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Old 09-11-2010, 11:02 PM   #1
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The point is I have letters from the so-called bosses that contradict what you're posting.
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:41 PM   #2
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Then I'm a liar? Again, so what's your point? Exactly what does it matter if the HP was negotiated or not; all that matters is the HP was assigned to the books and off to the races they went.

You still haven't answered what the point of this conspiracy, er, collusion is. And once you discover the truth upon which you are seeking, then what?
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Then I'm a liar? Again, so what's your point? Exactly what does it matter if the HP was negotiated or not; all that matters is the HP was assigned to the books and off to the races they went.

You still haven't answered what the point of this conspiracy, er, collusion is. And once you discover the truth upon which you are seeking, then what?
A liar no. But most probably misinformed. All the nhra executives involved could be spinning their butts off. Then again it could be a simple case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. The nhra members have been screwed no matter how it happened. Even with your heavy brand loyality you can understand how this debacle has hurt the sport..

Collusion is very simply a private agreement between two or more parties to commit an illegal act. A civil act in this case. Nobody in the real world believes nhra made this deal with the OEM's unless it benefited them. We believe nhra and OEM's intentionally made deals that would benefit their respective corporations to the detriment of the member racers and possibly some of the major contingency sponsors as well. The above information is a very small part of a much larger file and is only peanuts compared to the real problems that nhra has. We'll see how it all turns out in the future. We hope all members will benefit from the results of this work.
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:57 AM   #4
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Sean I don't like fighting so I would never be involved in a water fight. But I think it’s more like a shotgun vs. bow and arrow.

This is my question to you. How many people race the same car for 25 plus years? Not very many, you know why? Because that are always looking for a better combo to improve their advantage. That is what this class is made of, people looking for a class which they can have an advantage over there competitor. This has not changed for 50 years. These new cars are just a little softer then in past years.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:01 AM   #5
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I'm gonna still build my car and come out.. I have never been scared of a race and never will..

I don't have the money to build an A through 3 Stock anyways.. but I do feel for the guys in these classes. Heads up will suck.

I can't wait until I put on a trailer though in eliminations..that will make my day..

Just cause that have money doesn't mean they can cut a light and run the number..
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Old 09-13-2010, 03:56 PM   #6
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Sean I don't like fighting so I would never be involved in a water fight. But I think it’s more like a shotgun vs. bow and arrow.

This is my question to you. How many people race the same car for 25 plus years? Not very many, you know why? Because that are always looking for a better combo to improve their advantage. That is what this class is made of, people looking for a class which they can have an advantage over there competitor. This has not changed for 50 years. These new cars are just a little softer then in past years.
That's all fine.

But what about guys like me, who bought a car that's been flogged on for 25 years trying to get our feet wet.... there is no competitive place for us to run now.

I love the cars, I love the attention they are getting.... but they are getting it for the wrong reasons, they are fast because of the paperwork, not because of fabrication and ingenuity.
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That's all fine.

But what about guys like me, who bought a car that's been flogged on for 25 years trying to get our feet wet.... there is no competitive place for us to run now.

I love the cars, I love the attention they are getting.... but they are getting it for the wrong reasons, they are fast because of the paperwork, not because of fabrication and ingenuity.
Sean, how are you affected by these cars when you do not run in the higher classes?
BTW...as regards to fabrication and ingenuity, these cars are high tech stuff.
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Sean, how are you affected by these cars when you do not run in the higher classes?
BTW...as regards to fabrication and ingenuity, these cars are high tech stuff.
especially when you consider the fabrication of the HP factors
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Sean, how are you affected by these cars when you do not run in the higher classes?
BTW...as regards to fabrication and ingenuity, these cars are high tech stuff.
The crate 'Stangs and the Drag Pack can run in E and I believe F so it is of concern to me.
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A liar no. But most probably misinformed. All the nhra executives involved could be spinning their butts off. Then again it could be a simple case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. The nhra members have been screwed no matter how it happened. Even with your heavy brand loyality you can understand how this debacle has hurt the sport..

Collusion is very simply a private agreement between two or more parties to commit an illegal act. A civil act in this case. Nobody in the real world believes nhra made this deal with the OEM's unless it benefited them. We believe nhra and OEM's intentionally made deals that would benefit their respective corporations to the detriment of the member racers and possibly some of the major contingency sponsors as well. The above information is a very small part of a much larger file and is only peanuts compared to the real problems that nhra has. We'll see how it all turns out in the future. We hope all members will benefit from the results of this work.
Well I guess it would be possible the left doesn't know about the right and if your having direct communication with Grahm Light that would trump my conversation with the S/SS Committee Chairman this last week.

So I suppose when you say "we", there is a group and it looks like a big lawsuit is in the making with your group vs. NHRA. Since I assume your group must have a winning attitude and can endure the cost of litigation, what then will be your course of action?

And brand loyalty? LOL! Yes I like the AMX but with only a handful in action, it sure wouldn't make much sense to think there is an advantage in having one! And I see a DP 5.9 falls right into my SS class.
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