Drag Pak/Cobra Jet FX classes

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

At 7.0, a realistic index would be around 9.50, since the weight break for SS/C is 7.0, and we've already seen a CJ in SS/BA run 8.50 @ 157 in 3400 feet of air. I bet they don't go for that. But the math is pretty close. We've seen a SS/DA CJ run a 9-teen in the same air, and the break for SS/D is 7.5.

I'm talking about stock. As far as the Camaro goes, if there is an A/FX class there is no reason to not allow GM a "paper" car or two! After all, how many 5.9 DP's were built?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by GUMP

I'm talking about stock. As far as the Camaro goes, if there is an A/FX class there is no reason to not allow GM a "paper" car or two! After all, how many 5.9 DP's were built?

I'm talking about Stock as well. At 7.5 they're coasting to low 9 second passes. Take a half pound off of them and they lose over 200 pounds, making the 8's easily in reach on the same punch and coast set up they run low 9's with now. Those fast Super Stock CJ's have nearly stock engines.

The CJ's have an Eaton blower, that Eaton says they designed to produce adequate boost efficiently on a 7 liter engine, on a 4.6 liter engine. They have not even scratched the surface of the potential. The DP cars have a 1000cfm throttle body on a single plane intake that most Super Stock cars would love to have. There's more potential for flow there on a 5.9 or 6.1 liter engine than there is on any single carburetor engine in Stock, and for that matter, more than any 3x2 engine. Only the two 4 barrel engines can match them in flow capacity, and that's only the capacity of the carburetors and the throttle bodies, it leaves the intake out entirely.

All this silly talk of people being surprised about how fast these new cars can go is nonsense. Anyone who has built high performance engines for any real length of time saw the potential for 8 second performance in Stock immediately.

I told you before, and I'll say it again, the race package for the Camaro ain't coming. GM killed that program well over two years ago, I talked to the guy who started it and was in charge of it. The program is as dead as a door nail and all the people have been either moved to other programs or no longer even work there. What program was there never progressed past the information gathering stage. They started requesting input from racers on what they wanted to see, and the program ended less than a year later.

[BlueOval Ralph]

Allan as I read the NHRA poated specs the 2010 Super Stock 500hp has a Wipple in the specs.

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I'm talking about Stock as well. At 7.5 they're coasting to low 9 second passes. Take a half pound off of them and they lose over 200 pounds, making the 8's easily in reach on the same punch and coast set up they run low 9's with now. Those fast Super Stock CJ's have nearly stock engines.

The CJ's have an Eaton blower, that Eaton says they designed to produce adequate boost efficiently on a 7 liter engine, on a 4.6 liter engine. They have not even scratched the surface of the potential. The DP cars have a 1000cfm throttle body on a single plane intake that most Super Stock cars would love to have. There's more potential for flow there on a 5.9 or 6.1 liter engine than there is on any single carburetor engine in Stock, and for that matter, more than any 3x2 engine. Only the two 4 barrel engines can match them in flow capacity, and that's only the capacity of the carburetors and the throttle bodies, it leaves the intake out entirely.

All this silly talk of people being surprised about how fast these new cars can go is nonsense. Anyone who has built high performance engines for any real length of time saw the potential for 8 second performance in Stock immediately.

I told you before, and I'll say it again, the race package for the Camaro ain't coming. GM killed that program well over two years ago, I talked to the guy who started it and was in charge of it. The program is as dead as a door nail and all the people have been either moved to other programs or no longer even work there. What program was there never progressed past the information gathering stage. They started requesting input from racers on what they wanted to see, and the program ended less than a year later.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

Allan as I read the NHRA poated specs the 2010 Super Stock 500hp has a Wipple in the specs.

The Whipple is probably as efficient, if not more, than the Eaton, I have not looked, so I cannot say for sure. The first batch of the new cars came with an Eaton supercharger, those are the cars I was talking about. With 2 years worth of cars from Ford, as well as multiple engine combinations including supercharged modular engines and older V-8 crate engines, it's next to impossible to address each combination in every post. That applies equally to the Chrysler offerings. If you were to address every possible combination in every post, the posts would all be similar in length to "War and Peace". That's a problem in and of itself, as the multitude of combinations means that even if one or two combinations eventually is factored correctly, there are a dozen more out there that are not. And there are already plans either in place or in development for another year or two worth of new cars and combinations.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

The Whipple is probably as efficient, if not more, than the Eaton, I have not looked, so I cannot say for sure. The first batch of the new cars came with an Eaton supercharger, those are the cars I was talking about. With 2 years worth of cars from Ford, as well as multiple engine combinations including supercharged modular engines and older V-8 crate engines, it's next to impossible to address each combination in every post. That applies equally to the Chrysler offerings. If you were to address every possible combination in every post, the posts would all be similar in length to "War and Peace". That's a problem in and of itself, as the multitude of combinations means that even if one or two combinations eventually is factored correctly, there are a dozen more out there that are not. And there are already plans either in place or in development for another year or two worth of new cars and combinations.

as long as they keep "building" new cars and getting new bogus HP ratings they will NEVER even out