Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by art leong

Yeah I've always run "bogus combos" 1970 RT Challenger convertible (hemi), 1987 Dodge Shadow turbo I. (Real bogus they only made milliuons of them LOL) 1991 Dodge Spirit ES (another rare find LOL)
And last but not least the rareest of them all a Dodge Neon. Do you realize the only way you could get one was to buy it. You had to be one of those special people with real money."The inhumanity of it all"

LOL LOL

This is just a guess and I could be wrong, but I don't believe he was referring to the quantity produced.


-Toby

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

This is just a guess and I could be wrong, but I don't believe he was referring to the quantity produced.


-Toby

He stated I run bogus combos. are these bogus combos?

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by art leong

He stated I run bogus combos. are these bogus combos?

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but the way I took it was he meant bogus factor.

I don't know about your current ride, but any car that can go 2 seconds under the index I would say the factor is just a little off.


-Toby

[RULER]

I will answer the question then, I would say your Hemi challenger would qualify as a race car but the rest you listed are about as much of a race car as a VW bug. Sure there are spec's in the guide, but most poeple wouldn't think of them as race car may be you do, this not the same situation that we have now with these new under rated cars.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by RULER

I will answer the question then, I would say your Hemi challenger would qualify as a race car but the rest you listed are about as much of a race car as a VW bug. Sure there are spec's in the guide, but most poeple wouldn't think of them as race car may be you do, this not the same situation that we have now with these new under rated cars.

The Turbo dodges have been in the clasification guides since 1984. It's not built by GM?
My Neon is pounds per cubic inch. There is no HP factor.What's your point?
PS I have qualified number 1 at an NHRA event with every car I have raced.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by art leong

The Turbo dodges have been in the clasification guides since 1984. It's not built by GM?
My Neon is pounds per cubic inch. There is no HP factor.What's your point?
PS I have qualified number 1 at an NHRA event with every car I have raced.

Artie, His point was to take a shot at FWD cars, and therefore at you, in total anonymity .

Nice

[RULER]

No it was not a shot at FWD cars it was a shot at any car that MOST folks would consider not to be a race car, notice the word most. I understand that some can look at a station wagon and see a race car same with a FWD. car but most don't, so these type of cars are far and few, that is why i said it isn't the same as the new under rated cars we have now. I am sorry to the few that think they have a bad ***** station wagon or FWD. car because it will never be a 68 cuda/426 or an L88 vette. imo. Just because it can Qualify up top really doesn't mean much these days anyway.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by RULER

No it was not a shot at FWD cars it was a shot at any car that MOST folks would consider not to be a race car, notice the word most. I understand that some can look at a station wagon and see a race car same with a FWD. car but most don't, so these type of cars are far and few, that is why i said it isn't the same as the new under rated cars we have now. I am sorry to the few that think they have a bad ***** station wagon or FWD. car because it will never be a 68 cuda/426 or an L88 vette. imo. Just because it can Qualify up top really doesn't mean much these days anyway.

I'm happy in your anonomous world 68 Hemi Barracudas and L88 Vettes are allowed in stock.
In the real world you can buy a DP or a CJ for what the body would cost for a SS/AH car

[RULER]

I'm real sorry i used two of the greatest muscle cars made to make a point so i will try again because i'm sure you will never get it anyway. Let me change them to a 1970 hemi cuda or a 1970 LS6 chevelle, MOST would call these race cars, MOST! very few would call a neon a race car. but to each there own. but this has nothing to do with what is happening to stock eliminator at this time, so there you go!!!

[Stocker 449]

Originally Posted by RULER

No it was not a shot at FWD cars it was a shot at any car that MOST folks would consider not to be a race car, notice the word most. I understand that some can look at a station wagon and see a race car same with a FWD. car but most don't, so these type of cars are far and few, that is why i said it isn't the same as the new under rated cars we have now. I am sorry to the few that think they have a bad ***** station wagon or FWD. car because it will never be a 68 cuda/426 or an L88 vette. imo. Just because it can Qualify up top really doesn't mean much these days anyway.

So people with station wagons and FWD cars are not considered to have "real" racecars?


Looks like I have a real racecar in my book.


On a side note it is a great article, however it isnt anything that will probably catch the eye of the NHRA. FX classes would seem to help both parties.