Could we have reached the point of no return? - Page 2

Pat6868 · 09-15-2010, 04:38 PM

50 plus cars for CanAm race both days on Labour Day wknd. Don't think any other class had that kind of turn out. Damn nice car show as well. Plus crew entry fees. A good timing system and well run show aint to much to ask. Pat STK6868.

CrateCamaro · 09-16-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian Hill

Looking at it from a different approch, and most likely this is for the decision makers, but if we went to a Saturday race day when no other association was there, would the track prep be there for us? Last year we didn't pay to enter, this year its 15 bucks. Does any of the $100 entery fee go to the track? i don't know this answer, but if not i gotta figure the lanes would be preped similar to a friday night. Back when i was bracket racing i remember the payouts working out to 40-50% of the pot and much worse if the car count went up believe it or not. this was all to cover costs - employees, track prep, maintenance (which is obviously low on the list) insurance and profit. Regular sunday bracket days maybe the answer to having a good track and low costs.

I left the last sunday races discussed with the track as well. i have said it many times, i am loving the series and looking forward to purchasing a super stocker this winter. I will go where ever the Can Am Series runs!

Ian Hill
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67 Chevelle Stocker

The Can Am series is Freds deal. Track sees $0. 100% payback to the racers and the $15 we have to pay at the gate to get in is a new deal for this year. Im not sure what was said to bring on the new charge at the gate but im sure its because people were saying "Can Am" at the gate and getting in for free. And really id pay more to have a "raceable" track all day.

CrateCamaro · 09-16-2010, 01:12 PM

Im really surprised Fred hasn't chimed in yet. Keep in mind that there is TMP officials viewing and while we do want them to hear what we have to say we dont want our series to be back balled. Keep it clean and hopefully we can put something together and have a meeting with TMP officials and Can Am deligates.

dragracer502 · 09-16-2010, 01:13 PM

Tony, I agree 100%, I would happily pay at the gate to go to supporting the PROPER race operations at any track. But when the reality is inconsistency from top to bottom, (who pays at the gate, what do you have to pay at the gate, is the timing system going to be working or not, will it work even close to the same in both lanes) then I think as paying customers we have the right to raise issue. I know in my day to day job if I can't or don't get things right, then I have to answer for that, I am accountable, and thats what I am looking for from any track I race at.

dragracer502 · 09-16-2010, 01:16 PM

I was just thinking what a good job everyone posting has been doing of keeping their comments constructive and not just bashing for the sake of it. Remember "the truth will set you free". There is no harm in pointing out a problem if you are also ready to work at a solution

ChevyII · 09-29-2010, 07:31 PM

And the hits just keep on coming...

I see things haven't changed one iota. Moved west 13 years ago and believe me we have issues here too but I grew up racing at Cayuga. Attended the last IHRA national event in 2007 and the pit and top end racetrack pavement was the same (cracking) when I left and the lack of lighting at night was very evident. Funny what you see when you don't race there every season.

Neale and his staff do what they can but the ownership just doesn't get it. Funny I said that 15 years ago LOL.

In my estimation, you live in the best part of the country for racing and you have lots of choices. As much as I hate to say this, your money could be spent more wisely at other pristine facilities like Norwalk or Maple Grove for starters. Division 1 and 3 has by far the best Super Stock and Stock racers in the country and some of the best facilities to race at.

Let your $$$ do the talking.

Cheers!

Mike Ferstl

09-15-2010, 04:38 PM	#11
Pat6868 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 102 Likes: 6 Liked 88 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Could we have reached the point of no return? 50 plus cars for CanAm race both days on Labour Day wknd. Don't think any other class had that kind of turn out. Damn nice car show as well. Plus crew entry fees. A good timing system and well run show aint to much to ask. Pat STK6868.

09-16-2010, 01:12 PM	#13
CrateCamaro Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 411 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Could we have reached the point of no return? Im really surprised Fred hasn't chimed in yet. Keep in mind that there is TMP officials viewing and while we do want them to hear what we have to say we dont want our series to be back balled. Keep it clean and hopefully we can put something together and have a meeting with TMP officials and Can Am deligates. __________________ Tony Valerio 1968 Camaro 1700 IHRA H/CM 1701 NHRA SS/?A

09-16-2010, 01:13 PM	#14
dragracer502 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 163 Likes: 6 Liked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Could we have reached the point of no return? Tony, I agree 100%, I would happily pay at the gate to go to supporting the PROPER race operations at any track. But when the reality is inconsistency from top to bottom, (who pays at the gate, what do you have to pay at the gate, is the timing system going to be working or not, will it work even close to the same in both lanes) then I think as paying customers we have the right to raise issue. I know in my day to day job if I can't or don't get things right, then I have to answer for that, I am accountable, and thats what I am looking for from any track I race at.

09-16-2010, 01:16 PM	#15
dragracer502 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 163 Likes: 6 Liked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Could we have reached the point of no return? I was just thinking what a good job everyone posting has been doing of keeping their comments constructive and not just bashing for the sake of it. Remember "the truth will set you free". There is no harm in pointing out a problem if you are also ready to work at a solution

09-29-2010, 07:31 PM	#16
ChevyII Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 263 Likes: 3 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Could we have reached the point of no return? And the hits just keep on coming... I see things haven't changed one iota. Moved west 13 years ago and believe me we have issues here too but I grew up racing at Cayuga. Attended the last IHRA national event in 2007 and the pit and top end racetrack pavement was the same (cracking) when I left and the lack of lighting at night was very evident. Funny what you see when you don't race there every season. Neale and his staff do what they can but the ownership just doesn't get it. Funny I said that 15 years ago LOL. In my estimation, you live in the best part of the country for racing and you have lots of choices. As much as I hate to say this, your money could be spent more wisely at other pristine facilities like Norwalk or Maple Grove for starters. Division 1 and 3 has by far the best Super Stock and Stock racers in the country and some of the best facilities to race at. Let your $$$ do the talking. Cheers! Mike Ferstl