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Old 09-19-2010, 10:46 AM   #1
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Eddie,
Much on the fragmented information.
Someday, someone will put a complete book together.
There was a cost difference between the Dart and Cuda.
Approximate FACTORY cost to build the 68' Hemi cars was $3200.
Dealer cost $4204.88
Also, $4204.88 if the racer went to Michigan (Hazel Park or Madison Heights) to pick up the car.

Also, several issues with the car. Not a buy and race vehicle out of the box.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:50 AM   #2
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Eddie,
Much on the fragmented information.
Someday, someone will put a complete book together.
There was a cost difference between the Dart and Cuda.
Approximate FACTORY cost to build the 68' Hemi cars was $3200.
Dealer cost $4204.88
Also, $4204.88 if the racer went to Michigan (Hazel Park or Madison Heights) to pick up the car.

Also, several issues with the car. Not a buy and race vehicle out of the box.
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That sounds about right, we had a barbeque at the track Saturday night, and Dave Wren was there. We were talking about his recently re-purchased 68 Hemi Cuda that he bought new (#6 I believe he said). He picked the car up in the Detroit area, and that it was $4100 or 4200 at that time. Dave sold the car in 69, and supposedly the car sat in a barn or garage for almost 40 years, and has never been tubbed or caged. He showed me a photo of it, it`s white with a blue panel on the sides, with Cragar mags on it.
Dave also still has the same aluminum nose 63 Max Wedge sedan that he was runner up at the 68 Winternationals. Pretty cool.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:26 AM   #3
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That sounds about right, we had a barbeque at the track Saturday night, and Dave Wren was there. We were talking about his recently re-purchased 68 Hemi Cuda that he bought new (#6 I believe he said). He picked the car up in the Detroit area, and that it was $4100 or 4200 at that time. Dave sold the car in 69, and supposedly the car sat in a barn or garage for almost 40 years, and has never been tubbed or caged. He showed me a photo of it, it`s white with a blue panel on the sides, with Cragar mags on it.
Dave also still has the same aluminum nose 63 Max Wedge sedan that he was runner up at the 68 Winternationals. Pretty cool.
From an email I received from then new owner of Dave's 'Cuda:

Saturday, February 5, 2005 9:52 PM

Just got back from NJ yesterday -- left on Monday from Ne. and got
back Fri. 8:00 AM.

While we were picking-up a 68 Cuda that I purchased, I took some pics of a 1968 AMX and a 69 Charger -- both ol' race cars. Thought I'd post them in case anyone recognized them. They've been there a LONG time. I'll post the Charger next -- Reed in Ne.

Here's a shot of what happens when the owner doesn't take care of building maintenance !!

The 67 Vette was a 427 tri-power/ 4-speed // the 68 SS Cuda is now here in my shop in Nebraska. It was Dave Wren's FIRST SS Cuda - been in this building since late 1969 after the owner bought the body from Sox & Martin. If you look in the S&M book at the picture inside their shop of the SuperBird, the Wren Cuda is right next to the Bird -- the original fenders and hood are still the that orange paint scheme and match the the Cuda in the picture.

Its a ruff car in some ways but has a lot of good points such as 90% of the TUFF to find parts are with the car. I have most of the engine parts here already incl. NOS carbs, etc. I already bought another body to chop so we can reskin the roof and quarters.
I'll post more later -- Thanks, Reed in Ne.











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Old 09-20-2010, 07:57 AM   #4
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Daryl,
Thats great on the Ed Miller car. Glad to see it ended up in the right hands.
I'm sure it will receive the proper care. Ed had a great paint scheme too.
Are you going top follow that paint scheme with the 'Syracuse Region
Plymouth Dealers" on the rear quarter.
What # car was that. Had to be one the first ones out there.
Saw him at Dover and New York National with that car.

Rory,
Dave Wren's car. Not too many people saw that car. How the heck did it end up on the East Coast for 40 years

M68,
Great photo's. Hood and fenders, amazingly still retaining the orange color.

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Rory,
Dave Wren's car. Not too many people saw that car. How the heck did it end up on the East Coast for 40 years

M68,
Great photo's. Hood and fenders, amazingly still retaining the orange color.

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Paul, Dave told me after he sold the car to S&M, some guy bought it, took the front fenders off it, and let it sit.I had assumed that it was in a building with a roof however!
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Check out the right (passenger side) lower section of the shock tower
of the Cuda body in the Jersey garage.
Looks like one of those 'Master Mechanics at Hurst' used a sledge hammer on the inner fenderwell.
OUCH!

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Old 09-20-2010, 11:58 AM   #7
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Torsion-Bar Eddie,
On the pricing.
The $4204 price was for racers who picked their cars up.
The factory did not deliver the cars to the racers.
Due to legal issues and factory liability, racers had to sign a
waiver, including picking up their car.
The $4204 price was also the dealers cost.
I believe that the Regional office had control over just what racers were selected and offered the cars first.
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