Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning!

Sam Murray · 09-20-2010, 09:28 PM

Yes Art, I seem to remember that little incident. You left traces in the outlets and I believe it was after you tried to remove it?

Sam

novassdude · 09-20-2010, 10:18 PM

since you can't shoot them to protect your property I guess your best bet is to hide the body where no one will find it.

FrankChastain · 09-21-2010, 06:37 AM

Never heard a dead person say what happened....

SSDiv6 · 09-21-2010, 09:41 AM

Although we have a high tech alarm system at home, I have my faithful Springfield Armory XDm 3.8 .40 Cal with me all the time...just in case...

Bob Pagano · 09-21-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by novassdude

since you can't shoot them to protect your property I guess your best bet is to hide the body where no one will find it.

If the ******* is in your house and you Feel threatened you can shoot here in TX, the guy up on the corner shot and killed an intruder with no charges filed. The ******* had a gun.

Kenny Wigington · 09-21-2010, 10:24 PM

Infra red, wildlife camera's do give you some very damning "evidence"...... They dont even know they were on Candid Camera until its too late on some ! Motion activated, and better ones are silent almost.

Doug Domm · 09-21-2010, 11:06 PM

Now that wildlife camera is good thought.

Doug Domm · 11-25-2011, 12:00 PM

Update!!!!! Just saw the obituary in the local paper this morning complete with photograph of my intruder. I'm not sure what happened to him but is very unfortunate of what happens to some of our youth's lives these days. I must say though he only represents an insignificant percent of some of the young folk I've met recently. What do you think? Is there really an improvement in the character of more of our youth today or am I just getting mellower and more accepting? Never thought I would say that!!!!

goinbroke2 · 11-25-2011, 01:19 PM

Let me guess, "in loving memory of a sweet caring young boy" Or some other such bull****. **** him, he was a criminal, the worlds better off without him.

Yeah in Canada you can only use as much force as required to protect yourself and no more. In other words, your attacked by a known "problem" that is 2" taller and 30lb's heavier, but you bust his head open and put him in the hospital for 3 months and he loses 60% of vision in one eye...they charge you with;
1) manslaughter, the same day
2) attempted manslaughter when he didn't die after all
3) reduce it to aggravated assault with intent to injure when they find out who he is
4) judge see's both of us side by side and the whole story comes out. Calls it assault and gives me 30 days of striped sunlight and him 7 days for being in front of him again.
If I defended myself I would of been OK according to the "legal experts" but since I went a little beyond, that was considered "excessive" and the reason for my charge.

So, in Canada, if they are attacking you and you defend yourself (not with a gun unless he has one too, gotta be fair to criminals right?) you can only go as far as it takes to stop them. If he runs or turns his back and you shoot him or after him, YOU will be charged.
This happened in Fredricton N.B. a few years back. A store owner robbed for the umptenth time chased the crooks out and fired a couple of shots into the van as they were excaping, HE was charged/fined for misuse of a weapon/endangering lives/blah,blah,blah.

The only good news is, just the other day I heard something about "castle laws" by the Conservative gov. Never heard what it's about and there was talk of "vigilantyism" or whatever.
Any other Canadians on here heard about it?

I personally would love to see a law where I can protect my property with any means neccessary!

Tom keedle · 11-25-2011, 08:09 PM

1st sound they hear around here will be "bang!" not the sound of one being chambered

btw, i asked my wife what she should say..."stop or i'll shoot" or "bang! stop or i'll shoot"...
she said the 1st and i told here that's wrong and also told her if someone is in the house uninvited, they KNOW they aren't supposed to be there....

09-20-2010, 09:28 PM	#1
Sam Murray Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cummaquid, Mass Posts: 445 Likes: 417 Liked 60 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Yes Art, I seem to remember that little incident. You left traces in the outlets and I believe it was after you tried to remove it? Sam __________________ Sam Murray 1616 STK

09-20-2010, 10:18 PM	#2
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! since you can't shoot them to protect your property I guess your best bet is to hide the body where no one will find it.

09-21-2010, 06:37 AM	#3
FrankChastain Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trussville, Alabama-Originally from Vidalia,GA Posts: 642 Likes: 9 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Never heard a dead person say what happened....

09-21-2010, 09:41 AM	#4
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,044 Likes: 712 Liked 1,585 Times in 582 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Although we have a high tech alarm system at home, I have my faithful Springfield Armory XDm 3.8 .40 Cal with me all the time...just in case...

09-21-2010, 10:24 PM	#6
Kenny Wigington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cumming,Ga. USA Posts: 967 Likes: 36 Liked 60 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Infra red, wildlife camera's do give you some very damning "evidence"...... They dont even know they were on Candid Camera until its too late on some ! Motion activated, and better ones are silent almost. __________________ 2894 STK

09-21-2010, 11:06 PM	#7
Doug Domm Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: canada Posts: 251 Likes: 29 Liked 84 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Now that wildlife camera is good thought.

11-25-2011, 12:00 PM	#8
Doug Domm Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: canada Posts: 251 Likes: 29 Liked 84 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Update!!!!! Just saw the obituary in the local paper this morning complete with photograph of my intruder. I'm not sure what happened to him but is very unfortunate of what happens to some of our youth's lives these days. I must say though he only represents an insignificant percent of some of the young folk I've met recently. What do you think? Is there really an improvement in the character of more of our youth today or am I just getting mellower and more accepting? Never thought I would say that!!!!

11-25-2011, 01:19 PM	#9
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 892 Likes: 1,646 Liked 393 Times in 153 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Let me guess, "in loving memory of a sweet caring young boy" Or some other such bull**. ** him, he was a criminal, the worlds better off without him. Yeah in Canada you can only use as much force as required to protect yourself and no more. In other words, your attacked by a known "problem" that is 2" taller and 30lb's heavier, but you bust his head open and put him in the hospital for 3 months and he loses 60% of vision in one eye...they charge you with; 1) manslaughter, the same day 2) attempted manslaughter when he didn't die after all 3) reduce it to aggravated assault with intent to injure when they find out who he is 4) judge see's both of us side by side and the whole story comes out. Calls it assault and gives me 30 days of striped sunlight and him 7 days for being in front of him again. If I defended myself I would of been OK according to the "legal experts" but since I went a little beyond, that was considered "excessive" and the reason for my charge. So, in Canada, if they are attacking you and you defend yourself (not with a gun unless he has one too, gotta be fair to criminals right?) you can only go as far as it takes to stop them. If he runs or turns his back and you shoot him or after him, YOU will be charged. This happened in Fredricton N.B. a few years back. A store owner robbed for the umptenth time chased the crooks out and fired a couple of shots into the van as they were excaping, HE was charged/fined for misuse of a weapon/endangering lives/blah,blah,blah. The only good news is, just the other day I heard something about "castle laws" by the Conservative gov. Never heard what it's about and there was talk of "vigilantyism" or whatever. Any other Canadians on here heard about it? I personally would love to see a law where I can protect my property with any means neccessary!

11-25-2011, 08:09 PM	#10
Tom keedle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Berthoud, Coloraduh Posts: 695 Likes: 13 Liked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! 1st sound they hear around here will be "bang!" not the sound of one being chambered btw, i asked my wife what she should say..."stop or i'll shoot" or "bang! stop or i'll shoot"... she said the 1st and i told here that's wrong and also told her if someone is in the house uninvited, they KNOW they aren't supposed to be there....