2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes

[Bunkster]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

the clean tree would be that the slower car doesn't have to block out the distraction of the other car's lights coming down (some trees have dividers, some do not). You also don't see the other car leave out of your peripheral vision.

Oh, now I understand. You mean, sort of like the recent win that Keith Lynch had over Slate Cummings: Lynch dialed at 10.28 and Cummings at 10.69.

Yes, obviously Cummings had this "clean tree".

[Roger K Fain]

Treesavoy...how about the 55-60 Corvettes that have an inherent advantage w/ a 36" driveshaft as opposed to a tri-five sedan w/ the same engine/induction combination, along with a Jerico trans. and corporate 12 bolt and Calvert bars. Not to mention 55-57 Paxton supercharged Ford Thunderbirds w/four spd (Jerico/G force) trannies and 9" rear to spice up the action. Does anyone remember the 56-57 Plymouth Furies w/two fours and pushbutton touqreflite that terrorized the '57 Chevies. There is a ton of nostalgia 59-64 Chevy 409 freaks out there racing right now that have been waiting to get into the action.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Bunkster

Oh, now I understand. You mean, sort of like the recent win that Keith Lynch had over Slate Cummings: Lynch dialed at 10.28 and Cummings at 10.69.

Yes, obviously Cummings had this "clean tree".

well ignoring all your "spin" on that, yes that's what I am talking about. It's not a guaranteed win, but neither is gambling that your opponent goes red before you do. And finish line shenanigans can be played from both sides, fast or slow.

Keith drove an excellent race, and beat a very tough competitor. I would say that the outcome of that race would have the same probability for that outcome if Keith was in the slower car.

[Danny Ashley]

Why is it whenever the " Worst Redlight Rule" is brought up, people only see the scenario such as an A/SA vs an M/SA? They forget it could be an M/SA vs a N/SA. Now the M is the faster car eventhough by most people's standards it's considered a "Slow car". Or how about AA/SA vs A/SA? The A car is now the "Slow car". When the dial-ins are only a few thousandths apart,regardless of class designation, where is your "clean tree"? When both cars go green, the best package is declared the winner.When both drivers go red, please tell me why the guy who redlighted the least shouldn't be rewarded with the victory since he did the best job of driving and the dial-ins are no longer a factor? I'm with you Bunkster and loved your comeback picture.

[Dean3870]

Im a slow car, always will be a slow car! i have a fix for it. just stop giving out R.T.s that will fix it all. you have a starting line, and a finish line, and you both have the same one!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe ill just put mine back on the street! go to car shows way less bitching
mike dean
3870

[Bobby Zlatkin]

I also believe the worst red light should lose.

Why hasn't it been done that way? Because the technology hasn't been available before. The local tracks won't spend the bucks to purchase the latest timing system if they don't have to. And, the NHRA likes seeing the wheelstanding faster cars out there. More exicting and spectator friendly as part of their big show.

[James Perrone]

I guess the drivers complaining must red light alot.
Why dont you crying no racing donkeys get off the computer.
And you same donkeys want to get rid of HEADS UP RACING..
Do us all a favor and take up golf or TV couch potato racing..
Or be .200 in the tree AND YOU WONT GO RED!!

[Dean3870]

I think we should leave it the way it is! what make the diff? if im the first car to leave, and i go red i should have lost any way! just the way it is!!!!!!!if your all that worried about it better hit the practice tree and just not red light, sounds easer than looking for a excuses why you got beat!, and trust me im never the last to leave!

Mike Dean
G/SA 3870

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Roger K Fain

Treesavoy...how about the 55-60 Corvettes that have an inherent advantage w/ a 36" driveshaft as opposed to a tri-five sedan w/ the same engine/induction combination, along with a Jerico trans. and corporate 12 bolt and Calvert bars. Not to mention 55-57 Paxton supercharged Ford Thunderbirds w/four spd (Jerico/G force) trannies and 9" rear to spice up the action. Does anyone remember the 56-57 Plymouth Furies w/two fours and pushbutton touqreflite that terrorized the '57 Chevies. There is a ton of nostalgia 59-64 Chevy 409 freaks out there racing right now that have been waiting to get into the action.

348's maybe but the 409 wasnt introduced until 1961.

[art leong]

I'm always the first to leave in superstock.
Worst red light would benifit me. But I built the car knowing what the rules were. I have no business crying to change them after the fact.