2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes

[Bunkster]

Why is it that the following is considered unfair or nonsensical?

Everyone shall have an equal opportunity to red light.

As the starting line system is a basic fundamental, EVERYONE must take a shot at the tree.

No one shall ever deprived of an opportunity to red light.

Or, wouldn't this make as much sense as the current situation:

The LAST car to red light shall always be the loser. If you are always the LAST car to leave and find this unfair, then simply learn how to drive and don't redlight. Or, build a slower car.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Bunkster

Why is it that the following is considered unfair or nonsensical?

Everyone shall have an equal opportunity to red light.

As the starting line system is a basic fundamental, EVERYONE must take a shot at the tree.

No one shall ever deprived of an opportunity to red light.

Or, wouldn't this make as much sense as the current situation:

The LAST car to red light shall always be the loser. If you are always the LAST car to leave and find this unfair, then simply learn how to drive and don't redlight. Or, build a slower car.

you're right bunkster, that's fair. go get some a few bracket series, some local tracks, maybe the summit series to switch over and do it your way. If you can do that (i doubt you cna get one track to participate) and it is successfull then we'll talk about stock and superstock. Stock and superstock have enough controversy and differing opinions right now, there is no good reason to change the fundamentals of how the starting line works.

I'd love to see some data on how many races that rule would have affected. Problem is that a lot of fast cars, when giving a big enough spot will just leave when they see their opponents red light, that would skew the numbers.

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

Problem is that a lot of fast cars, when giving a big enough spot will just leave when they see their opponents red light, that would skew the numbers.

WHOA.......if that made it right NOBODY would see any redlight until BOTH cars had left the starting line !!!

[bill dedman]

Yet another post from someone who would ridicule the new rule proposal, but with NO logical reason not to change to it. Just more verbiage, changing the subject and offering distraction.

Take two asprin and call me in the morning, Ed...

[Jeff Lee]

Ed has one of the slowest cars out there and I'm sure it's a rare treat when he gets to leave last. He races the snout out of his slow car and as you know made it to the finals here recently. So one would think he would be all for this proposal. But you would be wrong...

[bill dedman]

You're right, Jeff; "There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE," my mom used to tell me when I was a kid...

Now, I know what she meant.

[John Lang]

Mr Dedman....You have been beating this First Red thing for a long ,long time ! Give it a rest ! Most racers, including myself think that the way it is now is just fine ! I've been doing this silly hobby (that I still love) since 1956, and it's still the closest thing to SEX you can get with your clothes on ! Yes at my age ! Go out and race and have a good time !........John

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

"There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE,"

Like the guy who races nothing but brackets constantly telling the people racing class they should change their rules because he feels they're not fair?