Gateway done!

Andys dad · 11-04-2010, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner

You would've failed in the most miserable possible way.

I am not so sure

Failure is not an option for me - overcoming the obstacles that will keep you from succeeding is all it takes

If the attitude of the management team was in any way similar to your remark then I understand

Peace

CycloneFE · 11-04-2010, 10:12 AM

While a good attitude is admirable it will not solve all things, and as eluded to in other posts the situation at Gateway was one of those.

I was forced by my company to take one of those positive attitude classes once and in the middle when the facilitator was comparing Michael Jordan and a wining attitude, an old fellow (volunteer Firefighter) spoke up and said, “So you’re telling me that those Firemen in New York on September 11th just didn’t have the right attitude?” The facilitator moved on.

I mean no disrespect to your feeling, just a humble observation.

Steve

Adger Smith · 11-04-2010, 10:36 AM

I have read, as well as the taxes/finance issues, that there is a battle going on with the CEO and board members that don't want to be invested/participate in the motorsports industry. That would be a hard battle for a track manager to overcome.

Andys dad · 11-04-2010, 11:57 AM

If someone else picks up the pieces and makes it a success - what does that say?

They will have overcame the problems that the past management team could not.

Attitude, ingenuity and resourcefulness may not win out in a "life or death" struggle but it does in most other situations.

BTW -
The brave firefighters, who lost their lives on 9/11, had a positive attitude or they would not have been there. They died trying. Let’s not make this a thread about 911

Bobby DiDomenico · 11-04-2010, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

I have read, as well as the taxes/finance issues, that there is a battle going on with the CEO and board members that don't want to be invested/participate in the motorsports industry. That would be a hard battle for a track manager to overcome.

So is it like the Chicago Tribune situation? The Chicago Tribune did not go into bankruptcy because folks stopped reading the newspaper, it was a tax situation with the family that owned the LA Times (which the Tribune bought with a special agreement of some sort) when they wanted out. I wonder if any of their horse properties are "subsidized" by casino type gambling.

Bret Kepner · 11-04-2010, 01:06 PM

LMAO! I don't even know who "Andy's dad" is so it's pretty stupid to take my reply as a personal affront.

If it makes you feel any better, I'll revise the original statement.

You, (or anyone else), would've failed in the most miserable possible way.

Andys dad · 11-04-2010, 01:09 PM

I did not take it personally at all

Some peolpe take this website way to seriously

Believe it or not we are not saving lives and we are not finding a cure for a pandemic disease

JWhalen58 · 11-04-2010, 01:54 PM

Bret, not too many years ago there were 3 tracks, gateway-peavly-wentzville, now none. What do you think happened?

jmcarter · 11-04-2010, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad

I am not so sure

Failure is not an option for me - overcoming the obstacles that will keep you from succeeding is all it takes

If the attitude of the management team was in any way similar to your remark then I understand

Peace

Maybe you should have run for governor of your state? Not poking you but Bret knows the St Louis situation pretty intimately.

11-04-2010, 10:12 AM	#2
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Gateway done! While a good attitude is admirable it will not solve all things, and as eluded to in other posts the situation at Gateway was one of those. I was forced by my company to take one of those positive attitude classes once and in the middle when the facilitator was comparing Michael Jordan and a wining attitude, an old fellow (volunteer Firefighter) spoke up and said, “So you’re telling me that those Firemen in New York on September 11th just didn’t have the right attitude?” The facilitator moved on. I mean no disrespect to your feeling, just a humble observation. Steve

11-04-2010, 10:36 AM	#3
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Gateway done! I have read, as well as the taxes/finance issues, that there is a battle going on with the CEO and board members that don't want to be invested/participate in the motorsports industry. That would be a hard battle for a track manager to overcome. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

11-04-2010, 11:57 AM	#4
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Gateway done! If someone else picks up the pieces and makes it a success - what does that say? They will have overcame the problems that the past management team could not. Attitude, ingenuity and resourcefulness may not win out in a "life or death" struggle but it does in most other situations. BTW - The brave firefighters, who lost their lives on 9/11, had a positive attitude or they would not have been there. They died trying. Let’s not make this a thread about 911 __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham

11-04-2010, 01:06 PM	#6
Bret Kepner Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, USA Posts: 418 Likes: 1 Liked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Gateway done! LMAO! I don't even know who "Andy's dad" is so it's pretty stupid to take my reply as a personal affront. If it makes you feel any better, I'll revise the original statement. You, (or anyone else), would've failed in the most miserable possible way. __________________ Bret Kepner BRETKEPNER@Prodigy.net Saint Louis, Missouri, USA

11-04-2010, 01:09 PM	#7
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Gateway done! I did not take it personally at all Some peolpe take this website way to seriously Believe it or not we are not saving lives and we are not finding a cure for a pandemic disease __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham Last edited by Andys dad; 11-04-2010 at 01:40 PM.

11-04-2010, 01:54 PM	#8
JWhalen58 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 110 Likes: 7 Liked 117 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Gateway done! Bret, not too many years ago there were 3 tracks, gateway-peavly-wentzville, now none. What do you think happened?