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Old 11-18-2010, 07:02 PM   #1
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There are 1.300" dual springs available that are 850 lbs.+ over the nose, some of you guys are kidding yourselves if you don't think this rule will get taken advantage of.

Steel "hydraulic" roller lifter bodies are available. Any pushrod OK, and the heads can be ground for them. Now any spring that fits the pockets. The rocker will be the weak link.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:10 PM   #2
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There's a limit to how much spring pressure you can use, and after that, you're just wasting power and creating problems. If you think the valve spring rule will suddenly add 1000RPM of usable power band you will be sorely disappointed in most cases.

You can only make a cam lobe so aggressive before you run off the edge of the lifter. There's already plenty of spring available to deal with that limiting factor.

It seems a lot of people thing "if a little is good, more is better, and too much is just right". That is not necessarily true with valve spring pressure.

It is not just valve spring pressure that is breaking rockers.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:53 PM   #3
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There's a limit to how much spring pressure you can use, and after that, you're just wasting power and creating problems. If you think the valve spring rule will suddenly add 1000RPM of usable power band you will be sorely disappointed in most cases.

You can only make a cam lobe so aggressive before you run off the edge of the lifter. There's already plenty of spring available to deal with that limiting factor.

It seems a lot of people thing "if a little is good, more is better, and too much is just right". That is not necessarily true with valve spring pressure.

It is not just valve spring pressure that is breaking rockers.
Lobe design causes a lot of harmonic problems. Incorrect heat treatment on some of the out of country made parts cause a bigger problem. Buy known quality parts and have them frozen and coated helps. Check your rocker arm geometry.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:34 PM   #4
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Good thing my lifters don't have edges. Valve springs and 6.14 gears on order.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:39 AM   #5
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I've been under the impression that you can eliminate the damper on applications that originally can with them. Am I wrong about that?
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I've been under the impression that you can eliminate the damper on applications that originally can with them. Am I wrong about that?
Before the new rule, you could be DQ'd for removing the damper, as the rule required the valve spring to be the same configuration as that listed in the blueprint specifications. So if you had an engine that required a 1.55" dual spring with damper, and you took the damper out, the spring configuration no longer matched the the blueprint specification. A tech man that was so inclined could DQ you.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:21 AM   #7
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Thanks Alan, but I guess it's a moot point now.
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Buy known quality parts and have them frozen and coated helps.
That would be "REM & Cryo". Call Jim Bailey at FINISHED... finishedracing.com Pretty cheap insurance!
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